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FlySurfer
FlySurfer
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13 Nov 2010 3:12pm


May go "adventure riding" once a year.
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
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13 Nov 2010 2:20pm
yes
doggie
doggie
WA
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13 Nov 2010 12:21pm
What about a BMW?
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
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13 Nov 2010 3:48pm
www.badmotorworks.com that's what about them.

But would you buy the bike over other bikes? Knowing that you'll be 98% of the time in traffic.

It weighs 270kg with fuel.
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
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13 Nov 2010 1:10pm
^^^^^ 270kgs...
98% time in Traffic..
I think you answered your own question..!
sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit
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13 Nov 2010 1:31pm
Hi FS

That's an interesting link about BMW. I didn't know BMW had an anti-movement.

I have decided to convert to dirt too. Next year. have pretty much made up my mind to abandon the KTM camp (2006 KTM 990SD) for BMW800F. I definitely need to do more research before buying.

Just something to think about though. BMW have had a frenzy of new designs. For decides, they had the boxer design and nothing else. Then all of a sudden (5 years ago I think), inline fours and twins appeared in their model range. Just remember, by the laws of engineering, a "Version 1.0.0" design is certainly going to have issues. A design that has been around many years, will have very few, since bad designs have already been revised. The CBR1000 and 600 motors for example have virtually remained unchanged since the early 90's and Honda (and other Jap co's) have progressed in small safe increments (which is a engineering strategy typical of Jap co's). BMW would not be immune to this engineering rule and so the bigger the jump, the higher the risk of technical issues.

If you want certainty, then yes, get a jap bike . When I got my KTM 4 years ago (ie: a "V1.0.0" design), I was happy to take on the technical risk of the new design. Luckily, I've had very few problems. However, this won't be the case for my next bike.

J
SandS
SandS
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13 Nov 2010 5:19pm

no
log man
log man
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13 Nov 2010 7:32pm
I've got a similar bike,this may be the new model,i don't know. I got a Yamaha TDM 900 2002 model as a road bike its brilliant. I ended up modding the **** out of it so now it's turbo, yeeehaaa
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
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13 Nov 2010 9:53pm
sharkbiscuit: My last bike was a K1300R and while the engine was awesome the bike leant to the right, had strange engine noise oh and crooked steering (steering later mostly resolved by ME).

Fark BMW. All the dealers are farkers and the quality is sh!t... go ahead and by your box of chocolates.


log man: I've always had a sweet spot for the TDM since my friend had the 850.

I like the Super Tenere, but it's a little flat until 4500 rpm then runs out of power at 6k... gets hot in Sydney weather (the radiator fan was on all the time)... apart from that it's well mannered and comfortable.

I think the biggest positive for me is that it's a Japanese bike, but it is a v1... that's why I'm asking here.

GypsyDrifter: Practicality would dictate I get an electric bicycle... this is a poser purchase with vague notions of adventurism.


busterwa
busterwa
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13 Nov 2010 10:06pm
Nope you will hit a car (car will hit you)and kill yourself.
petermac33
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14 Nov 2010 2:21am
met a cripple at the boarding house i once stayed at in Vic. Park. his leg/hip region was permanently damaged from motor-bike injury he had.

he can only walk/hobble now with aid of walking stick.

i asked him what happened.....driving along Shepparton Road a parked car pulled out smashing into his leg.

took something like 4 years to get compensation,around $300k from memory, he bought a house with it in Mt. Lawley.

trouble with motor-bikes no cage to protect you.

save up a bit more and buy a Honda Legend.





FlySurfer
FlySurfer
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14 Nov 2010 10:33am
Here's an adventure report with an ST: www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=52625.0
It's a good read

...
The problem with bikes is farking idiots in cars.
I'll let those who seek the safety of their cages enjoy Alzheimer's, stroke, heart attack, cerebral aneurysm, , punch to the head from an irate bikie with re-enforced knuckle protection.


PS: I've had 2 friends die in car accidents, and one was sitting in the back seat of the Jaguar for +4 hours in a really, really bad way.

sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit
820 posts
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14 Nov 2010 8:17am
FlySurfer said...

punch to the head from an irate bikie with re-enforced knuckle protection.


That attitude is going get to run over for sure. Good luck with the serious discussion
stamp
stamp
QLD
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14 Nov 2010 12:26pm
doggie said...

What about a BMW?


bmw riders are the volvo drivers of the bike world

getfunky
getfunky
WA
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14 Nov 2010 10:58am
GypsyDrifter said...

^^^^^ 270kgs...
98% time in Traffic.. I think you answered your own question..!


(for use offroad twice a year)

Doesn't stop 90% of 4WD owners.

Is hiring a similar bike twice a year an option Fly guy?
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
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14 Nov 2010 2:11pm
I think I'll offer a low price and if they take it at least I get a good deal.

If they don't I'll get an electric bicycle or the Triumph Sand Racer.
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
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14 Nov 2010 12:56pm
petermac33 said...

met a cripple at the boarding house i once stayed at in Vic. Park. his leg/hip region was permanently damaged from motor-bike injury he had.

he can only walk/hobble now with aid of walking stick.

i asked him what happened.....driving along Shepparton Road a parked car pulled out smashing into his leg.

took something like 4 years to get compensation,around $300k from memory, he bought a house with it in Mt. Lawley.

trouble with motor-bikes no cage to protect you.

save up a bit more and buy a Honda Legend.



Don't agree with were you are headed with this statement.

It's up to a bike rider to be 5 times more alert to whats going on around them.

Yes there are crappy car drivers ..but yes there are crappy bike riders too..
if you are going to take high risks on a bike then you need to take responsibility for
your own demise if that were to happen.

If you ride a bike like you drive a car...you should not be on a bike...

We all now the road users are in a world of their own these days..
and when you ride these days you need to treat everyone as an
idiot so to speak ... and just be aware ...
worrier
worrier
WA
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14 Nov 2010 1:37pm
stamp said...

doggie said...

What about a BMW?


bmw riders are the volvo drivers of the bike world



Personally I recon all the middle aged dudes on fatboys with skull bandanas are the volvo drivers of the bike world.
But thats just me

ginger pom
ginger pom
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14 Nov 2010 8:50pm
petermac33 said...

met a cripple at the boarding house i once stayed at in Vic. Park. his leg/hip region was permanently damaged from motor-bike injury he had.

he can only walk/hobble now with aid of walking stick.

i asked him what happened.....driving along Shepparton Road a parked car pulled out smashing into his leg.

took something like 4 years to get compensation,around $300k from memory, he bought a house with it in Mt. Lawley.

trouble with motor-bikes no cage to protect you.

save up a bit more and buy a Honda Legend.



is that the same boarding house where the indian man got you drunk and tried to make inappropriate with you?

GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
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14 Nov 2010 7:06pm
One dead following motorcycle crash
The West Australian November 14, 2010, 8:57 am

Major Crash officers are seeking witnesses to a crash that claimed the life of a 65-year-old motorcyclist from Greenwood yesterday.

The man and his 54-year-old wife were riding a black Honda motorcycle east along Hepburn Avenue in Padbury about 5.30pm when it collided with a white Suburu hatch at the intersection of Hepburn Avenue and Gibson Avenue.

It is understood that the Suburu, which was travelling west along Hepburn Avenue, was turning right into Gibson Avenue at the time.

The motorcyclist died soon after in hospital.

His passenger remains in a critical condition in Royal Perth Hospital.

Freaking horrible...but what!
Black bike... white car...bike in the right...sun going down...stupid car did not see them....bike heading east..no sun in their eyes...

So very sorry for friends and family.
cisco
cisco
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14 Nov 2010 11:50pm
Most drivers these days don't give a hoot about hitting other cars or pedestrians.

What would anybody think would make the average today motorist be more considerate towards a motor cycle rider. Especially wimmen in 4WDs. Give a woman a 4WD and she will grow her own gonads.

Rule of the road is that unless otherwise signed, pedestrians have right of way, but who feels comfortable being a pedestrian these days??

petermac33's comment I feel was on the mark and there was no reference to any conspiracy theory, so why do some people HAVE to bag anything he posts.

Grow up numb nuts!

His point is totally relevant. I spent three weeks in an orthopaedic ward after sliding my car off the road at 65 mph, hitting a small tree and breaking the car in half. I was very lucky to survive. All I had to do was lie on a plywood mattress for the duration.

However 80% of the patients in the ward were there due to motorcycle accidents and they were the only ones with legs in plaster with steel pins through their knees and other body parts attached to traction weights etc. Not a pretty sight for the onlooker and worse for the one providing the picture.

Qualifyer:- I rode motor cycles for 10 years. BSA 650, Honda 250, Triumph 500, Kawasaki 900 Z1 and Yamaha XS1 650, the last being the best after I modified it.

Motor bikes are a great mode of transport as well as being a ton of fun to ride. I rode the Honda Sydney-Brisbane return once, the Triumph twice, the Kwaka Cairns to Tassie and back to Brissie, then from Darwin to Cairns then to Brisbane and the Yammy from Brisbane to Nowra.

Bikes are great for the highway (as long as you do not collect a cow or 'roo) but IMLO (in my learned opinion) verge on suicidal in big city traffic.

If the bike shakes your bootie, you should have it, but make sure you have something with four wheels for the daily work commute.

If you are single and all your rellies are dead, go for your life. If you have one or more people who love you, think about what it would do to them if you creamed yourself.
KEARNSY
KEARNSY
WA
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14 Nov 2010 10:13pm
Gday fly ,

I have many years riding experience . I just sold my last weapon (CBR600RR).

Im not going to get into the logistics or statistics of motor cycle accidents because IMO its all BS.

So your looking for a touring bike I take it. Yamaha make great bikes and you couldnt go wrong buying that beast. Also nothing wrong with a Jap bike. The new ones are great and go well . The harder you ride em the better they go imo.

Good luck and keep the rubber side down!
GreenPat
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15 Nov 2010 8:20am
Speaking of conspiracies, when I ride my bike I practice complete and utter paranoia at all times. Every car on the road is about to do something stupid.
doggie
doggie
WA
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15 Nov 2010 8:35am
GreenPat said...

Speaking of conspiracies, when I ride my bike I practice complete and utter paranoia at all times. Every car on the road is about to do something stupid.


I do that when Im driving!! I dont get on bikes these days, dont trust myself!!
busterwa
busterwa
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15 Nov 2010 2:20pm
doggie said...

GreenPat said...

Speaking of conspiracies, when I ride my bike I practice complete and utter paranoia at all times. Every car on the road is about to do something stupid.


I do that when Im driving!! I dont get on bikes these days, dont trust myself!!


i used to ride alot when i was young
Last time i rode was about 4 years ago at a mates house.I had about six beers and we stood masturbaing over his dr400 after swimming in his pool ... anyways to cut a long story short i did a wheel stand right out front of his house where all the boys were watching ! i miss judges the speed and dropped the front wheel down abit late locked up the back brakes thru a T junction and ended up eating some grannies front fence and garden. (barefooted) ciggerette and no helmet of course)
Never been on a bike since.Have no intention of ever getting on a bike again.
I cosider myself a idiot and idiots shouldnt get on bikes
doggie
doggie
WA
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15 Nov 2010 2:41pm
busterwa said...

doggie said...

GreenPat said...

Speaking of conspiracies, when I ride my bike I practice complete and utter paranoia at all times. Every car on the road is about to do something stupid.


I do that when Im driving!! I dont get on bikes these days, dont trust myself!!


i used to ride alot when i was young
Last time i rode was about 4 years ago at a mates house.I had about six beers and we stood masturbaing over his dr400 after swimming in his pool ... anyways to cut a long story short i did a wheel stand right out front of his house where all the boys were watching ! i miss judges the speed and dropped the front wheel down abit late locked up the back brakes thru a T junction and ended up eating some grannies front fence and garden. (barefooted) ciggerette and no helmet of course)
Never been on a bike since.Have no intention of ever getting on a bike again.
I cosider myself a idiot and idiots shouldnt get on bikes


Yes Im an idiot as well, fell off a scooter in Bali this year think I will pay for a driver next year in saying that it does make getting around that place a bit easier.
bingles
bingles
WA
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15 Nov 2010 3:15pm
I have experienced mechanical failure while riding, when the chain snapped, fractured pelvis and fractured skull, all happpened in the blink of an eye
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
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16 Nov 2010 2:32pm
doggie
doggie
WA
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16 Nov 2010 11:49am
Nice bit of ova-kill. You said that you were only going to use it once a year?!?
getfunky
getfunky
WA
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16 Nov 2010 12:09pm
Far out! I'd be swabbing that bike for traces of roids.

Noice looking piece of kit tho.
ginger pom
ginger pom
VIC
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16 Nov 2010 8:18pm
cisco said...

Most drivers these days don't give a hoot about hitting other cars or pedestrians.



That's right.

No one is even slightly shocked after accidents nowadays. The average young person will hit four or five pensioners and war heroes, killing them stone dead on the way back from the pub and not even stop. They won't even think that it's wrong and they'll brag about it afterwards on twitter or whatever it is that they use these days...

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