check out "THE MONEY MASTERS" on google video and get an even better understanding

Jimmyz said...

Haha, at least in the secondary markets that is true! I agree, I'm currently doing B Finance and B Economics at uni and am questioning whether I'd ever get involved in the share/derivatives market as far as a career goes - sure the money is good, and I believe that I have potential, but to what end apart from making $$$$$?!

But you never know, I may be tainted in the next few years! (hopefully not)

probably a good choice J,

i work in the pointy end of the building sector and i can honestly say that there ain't no money moving (anywhere). banks have shut up shop regardles of what the government is saying. unless something changes the majority of us better hang on to our hats.

can you become an accountant with the double b's your doing. people always need financial advice. when times are good and when times are bad.

^^^ i guess its just a matter of which conspiracy you're willing to accept...

Gestalt said...
i work in the pointy end of the building sector and i can honestly say that there ain't no money moving (anywhere). banks have shut up shop regardles of what the government is saying. unless something changes the majority of us better hang on to our hats.

So:
A) A good time to own real estate, there's already undersupply and it's only going to get worse
or
B) Unemployment is about to go up, as will delinquent mortgages

Also, If you look a few years ahead, about 5, there will be a lot of older people leaving the workforce, much more than joining it. Will be interesting over the next 10-15.

Sometimes I wish for a big, take care of everything, socialist govt. I've got a pile of paper about 30cm high to file tonight, and that's only 12 weeks worth. I throw about 70% out too!

Car insurance, registration, medical insurance, professional indemnity insurance, life insurance, mortgage insurance, home and content insurance, ctp insurance, family tax and and b, child care, child care benefits, dental fees, doctor fees, medicare rebates, split mortgages, GST, GST Returns, BAS statements, PAYG, Superannuation, Body Corp fees, Council Rates... I'm sure I've forgotten most of the pile.

My wife grew up in soviet Russia. Once a month they had to pay a phone bill, mind you they did have to queue.

Jimmyz said...

the people with the fast cars and yachts never get to actually use them because they need to afford them in the first place.

????

Jimmyz said...

Haha, yes I'm doing accounting. I don't particularly enjoy it though . I reckon I'll go work for the world bank (economic aid agency if you didn't already know) and live in Somalia or something... in a straw hut, somewhere I can kitesurf/surf.

nice one j,

do you read the epoch times?

in my opinion one of the best media outlets around.

http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/about-us.html

That was AMAZING Doc.... That guy is brilliant.

just released today... and one could argue the timing to be conspiracy itself,

think you've got a handle on fractional banking...?

check this out..vvvvv

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912


.....we really are all aboard a ship of fools

Gestalt said...

theDoctor said...

just released today... and one could argue the timing to be conspiracy itself,

think you've got a handle on fractional banking...?

check this out..vvvvv

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912


.....we really are all aboard a ship of fools

you can always get off the ship doctor. no-one forces anyone to stay onboard.

What, top yourself, or take up the life of a hunter gatherer (the modern equivalent being street people)? Who doesn't need money?

did you guys even watch the movie tied to the link posted...?

or you just wanna throw sh1t and play with yourselves....

......talk about monkeys

theDoctor said...

did you guys even watch the movie tied to the link posted...?

or you just wanna throw sh1t and play with yourselves....

......talk about monkeys

The only one throwing **** that I can see is your sweet anonymous self Doc.

hmmmm... anonymous maybe to avoid the attention of .... them

This is getting very negative.

Doc, I do appreciate your posting this vid. It's very interesting however its very spinny. A lot of what is said is common knowledge and common sense presented as startling revelation. Still its valuable to lift ourselves out of the torpor of acceptance that is everyday life. So don't let me put you off. You just might make a difference and I wouldn't want to interfere with that.

surfinchick said...

Jimmyz said...

the people with the fast cars and yachts never get to actually use them because they need to afford them in the first place.

????

Just saying that I'd rather do something that costs relatively little and have a hell of a lot of fun than something ridiculously expensive and potentially less fun. Not to mention that NOTHING beats a hot summers day session until sunset mmmmmmmmmm.

theDoctor said...

did you guys even watch the movie tied to the link posted...?

or you just wanna throw sh1t and play with yourselves....

......talk about monkeys

i don't believe i threw **** mate, and certainly i played the ball and not the person.

this is getting off topic but you shouldn't assume we are all uninformed slaves of the economic system created to control us. i think that is how the video put it.

as i said previously show me a solution that isn't socialist or communist based because certainly the venus project is. It's just delivered in a neo-utopian format.

the idea that the machines will do everything and we can all go to the beach is a great notion. there has been loads of socialist based cults over the years that have tried similar ideas and the TRUTH is that they have all failed. and why, because eventually human nature is human nature.

the problem is someone still has to WORK to create new technologies and scientific outcomes. someone still has to make DECISIONS and someone still has to sit at the TOP of the chain overseeing the day to day outcomes so something gets achieved. Eventually people being what they are, they decide that maybe they actually did more than someone else and figure they maybe deserve more.

to me the Venus Project sounds like a CULT. i particularly like the text on their website where they say "The Venus Project is a educational think tank operating out of a 25-acre Research Center located in Venus, Florida." sounds pretty grand hey. of course the picture of their dome house shows the truth.

i also liked their views that human behaviour can be "modified". just the words send shivers down my spine. anyone tries to modify me and i'll raise my middle finger in their direction.

you know what they say,

you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.

lets see what propaganda is

Propaganda is a concerted set of messages aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of large numbers of people. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense presents information in order to influence its audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or gives loaded messages in order to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the cognitive narrative of the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda.

Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist.

unfortunately the internet has enabled loads of similar types of groups draw attention to themselves. take the unigod as another example.

ultimately i admire the ideals outlaid in the zeitgeist addendum vid. oh yeah, i've seen the first vid also. saw it about a year ago now i think. but once again i don't think they offer a solution i am prepared to sign up to.