a great video

ginger pom said...

or omnivore?

I think if you eat meat like an American then the video is probably fair... a small amount of a varied amount of meat in your diet does get you nutrition that is hard (but not impossible) to get on a veggie diet.

When people make a life changing switch like he has, they tend to look more carefully at what they eat so their before and after comparisons are less meaningful. In this case, he went from a lazy meat eater's diet to a concerned vegetarian's diet.

How do people feel about eating Kangaroo? I'm getting through about two packs a week of the Coles marinaded stuff. It seems to be better for the environment (they don't fart and they don't wear away grass in fragile climates because they don't have hooves), tasty and healthier too.

GP, I agree I think it gets back to something my dad always told me growing up. "Everything in moderation" with the food pyramid adhered to. I think most of us were taught that at school, and that says vegetables and cerials should make up the largest portion of anything on our plate. How many people these days can look at their dinner plate and say that's true? Sure some could, but it seems the trends are awa from that.

we try to base our diet on what could be termed oportunistic omnivore, atleast 90% of our diet is vegetarian; eggs from our chickens, veges & fruit from our (and nieghbours) garden, fish from our fisho friends
(today best mate caught a four foot tuna while fishing out on his kayak, just got back from his tale of two hour man versus beast story of the sea, the best part was when he was making his way home from about three kay out with a big tuna balanced on his kayak when he thought a shark was stalking him, turned out to be a cuttlefish bone floating on end).
the opportunistic part comes from bbqs at my brothers or roasts at the missus mums house or the lazy nights hamburgers from harry's.

I was born with canine teeth, a single stomach and a lower intestine that has evolved to digest meat.

Hence I eat meat.

If I had been born with molars instead of canines, 7 stomachs and a digestive system evolved to handle cellulose I would eat grass.

If I had been born with baleen and two blow holes I would eat krill (and be eaten by Japanese scientists)

If I had been born a dung beetle I would eat ****


disclaimer : yes, I know I was actually born with a body that has evolved to be an omnivore, not solely a carnivore, but I'm sure you get my point.

As I have said before , a vegaterian, just another Old Indian word for poor hunter, Give me a big steak any day
A few relies are vego's , seem to get crook a heck of a lot , Why?

ginger pom said...

is anyone else struggling with the term "hardcore vegetarian"?

Yeah, it's a bit like 'Extreme Chess' player!

ginger pom said...

is anyone else struggling with the term "hardcore vegetarian"?

Yeah - like are some vegetables closer to animals than others? Hardcore vegetarians bypass some vegies as they are not vegie enough?


This thread reminds me of a mate of mine once who looked at a plate of salad and said "that's not food - that's what food eats...."

ginger pom said...

evolution is just a complex theory

I like contenders for Darwin's theory...makes for good youtube viewing.

I like ice cream

Smedg said...

is everyone struggling with realising Trev was making fun of vego's... at least that's how my intellectually superior but possibly paranoid vego brain read it.

I'm vegan number 5.

Vegetarians and vegans are not the same things, there is a Simpsons involving a dude who is some mega vegan, I couldn't recall the quote exactly.

TrevNewman said...

Smedg said...

is everyone struggling with realising Trev was making fun of vego's... at least that's how my intellectually superior but possibly paranoid vego brain read it.

I'm vegan number 5.

Vegetarians and vegans are not the same things, there is a Simpsons involving a dude who is some mega vegan, I couldn't recall the quote exactly.

Yep. I think the quote is something about being a vegan number 5 which means you don't eat anything that casts a shadow. Keeps me pretty lean ;)

echunda said...



to overcome this I went out, killed a couple animals (not at the same time, that would just be silly) chopped them up and ate them.

If you can't kill it yourself, you've gt no right to eat it.

Did you run the animal down, pounce on it, clamp onto it with your sharp claws and bite through it's neck with your massive canine teeth?

TrevNewman said...

echunda said...



to overcome this I went out, killed a couple animals (not at the same time, that would just be silly) chopped them up and ate them.

If you can't kill it yourself, you've gt no right to eat it.

Did you run the animal down, pounce on it, clamp onto it with your sharp claws and bite through it's neck with your massive canine teeth?

I either shot (broadside), dogged or caught by hand and killed. I've got no issues with killing an animal for food, or eliminating vermin.

As is my wont, I am going to sit on the fence for this one.

It takes a lot to convince a vegetarian that meat is good, just as it is difficult to convince an omnivore that it is not healthy to eat meat.

The "standard" food pyramid... http://www.thenaturalway.com.au/foodpyramidpop.html
is considered by many to be upside down
www.getzoned.com.au/what_foods_are_in_the_zone.html

Diet should not be about winners and losers, it should be about what works for each individual. For every piece of research showing the virtues of vegetarianism, I bet I can find research that shows the opposite.

I have seen diets that extol low fat, low carb, low protein, low sugar blah blah blah. Can they all be right?

There is no concensus even among dieticians about what comprises a healthy diet, I have my own regime that I choose to follow (only for the last 4 months I admit, before that I lived on a rich and varied diet that included all the major fast food options ;-) ), but respect others right to choose their own diet.

What is the infatuation with beating anyone with an opposing view into submission?

J

Sorry Doggie, you could not be any more wrong.

J