Moved into a new house and am now the proud user of a fire place.
My mate has been helping out with stacks of timbers from his job but I will be running out real quick.
Anyone can recommend where I can buy a couple of trailers of decent timber at an appealing price?
Let me know.
Cheers,
Price is horrific now, seems to have doubled in about 4 or 5 yrs.
Chainsaw and trailer will pay for itself in couple of winters... :)
Even if you have to hire a trailer and chainsaw for the day you would be hundreds in front.
There should be a greenwaste collection coming up soon in my area (Hills), and usually there are piles and piles of cut logs (Jarrah and Marri) piled in peoples front yard.
Also, you can get a permit from the DEC (about $25 I think) and go into specified areas of the parks and collect wood, but I would think all the good stuff would be gone now. There are heaps of people that do it 'less legally', but due to Dieback, it would be cheaper by ten fold to buy it if you were to get caught.
Whenever I hear a tree being cut down in my neighbourhood (sadly much too often), the contractor has always been glad to dump a truck load in my driveway. Seems like getting rid of the wood is an expense for them. Maybe there are less fireplaces in Sydney homes these days?
Whenever I hear a tree being cut down in my neighbourhood (sadly much too often), the contractor has always been glad to dump a truck load in my driveway. Seems like getting rid of the wood is an expense for them. Maybe there are less fireplaces in Sydney homes these days?
I think my council offered a rebate of some sort to have people replace wood fires with gas. I have to say, I agree with it. I like a wood fire, but I hate it when the smoke just sits around and stinks the place out.
I stayed with some friends in Mossvale once, and everyone seemed to have wood fires, so everywhere stank. I guess it didn't matter so much when it was that cold you didn't go outside, but Sydney is not quite that cold.
I think the rate for green waste is around $200 a tonne. For anything outside of the required size, its $300 a tonne, so you are doing them a favour taking it.
Sebol, where do you live?
One of my suppliers does firewood in bulk. All legit wood with the right moisture content. I'll get a price when im back at work on Friday if you like? Comes loaded in big bags that fit utes , trailers via forklift or delivered to your door.
Also, you can get a permit from the DEC (about $25 I think) and go into specified areas of the parks and collect wood, but I would think all the good stuff would be gone now.
I was going for a legal ride on legal roads on a legal motorbike last weekend and came across a sign indicating a legal firewood collection area (with permit) I subsequently came across people collecting firewood, and from what I saw they hadn't even scratched the surface. It was in old logging areas where all the knobby bits had been left, but there was heaps of it.
I can't be sure the people I saw were in the area they were meant to be, I wasn't collecting firewood myself so this all anecdotal, but there sure was a lot of good firewood around. Somewhere between Brookton Highway and Albany Highway.
Yeah GreenPat most the collection areas are off the Brookton Hwy. My best guess is that the areas have been treated for Dieback allowing for access without spreading it any further.
I think my council offered a rebate of some sort to have people replace wood fires with gas. I have to say, I agree with it. I like a wood fire, but I hate it when the smoke just sits around and stinks the place out.
It's bizarre how the council & gov't continually contradict each other. Burning wood is a carbon-neutral source of energy (as long as it is from a sustainable source & regrowth etc...etc...) - which should be promoted as a 'clean' form of heating, especially with the energy performance requirements that has been pushed hard by the governments over the past decade...instead, the councils offer rebates to get rid of the 'energy-efficient' forms of heating in lieu of a 'non-energy-efficient' form of heating that burns fossil fuels. ![]()
I like wood heaters and would have one in a heartbeat...but CBF chopping wood (don't have enough 'me' time now), and a good quality heater that runs on town supplied natural gas is cheaper than buying firewood in these colder parts of Vic.
If you have smoke that "just sits around and stinks the place out" - it sounds like you need to move somewhere windier! ![]()
If you have a wood mill near to you they often sell the offcuts as firewood. I got one of the local tipper truck drivers to get me a 9 tonne load last winter from the local mill for around $300 still got heaps left over for this winter.
Probably not for this year but maybe the next as its usually very green wood
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Thank you all, very helpful indeed, I live in Scarborough but will definitely use your suggestions.
Just found out that my mate Elroy Jetson has another stack for me through his job so I may not run out after all.
Yep the argument about open fire polluting is a strange one, most dead timber uncollected for burning purpose will end up burning in a control burn out so it makes sense to use it as a source of heating rather than letting it burn in the bush in my book.
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... Burning wood is a carbon-neutral source of energy (as long as it is from a sustainable source & regrowth etc...etc...) ...
Burning wood is indeed carbon-neutral (if you ignore the energy expended in harvest and transport). It unfortunately produces lots of particulate emissions so it is very polluting when used in high population density areas (and crappy fireplaces, and crap quality firewood, and people lighting fires when they could easily put on a jumper).
... Burning wood is a carbon-neutral source of energy (as long as it is from a sustainable source & regrowth etc...etc...) ...
Burning wood is indeed carbon-neutral (if you ignore the energy expended in harvest and transport). It unfortunately produces lots of particulate emissions so it is very polluting when used in high population density areas (and crappy fireplaces, and crap quality firewood, and people lighting fires when they could easily put on a jumper).
I love the smell of a nice wood fire. who cares about the emissions. If you are using dead growth from the forrest, if you or someone else don't burn it, this will be burnt off at some stage anyway by the government so that the fuel levels are reduced and eliminates the risk of out of control fires.
....who cares about the emissions. ...
Particle emissions are not a problem when there's a wind to blow them away, and not too many fires, and when the fires are working well.
It only becomes a problem when there's a heap of fires in a dense urban environment and the fires are done badly. Then you get smogs, and respiratory problems and toxic air quality issues.
The legendary fogs in London during the nineteenth century came from too many home fireplaces burning wood and coal in a dense urban environment.
... If you are using dead growth from the forrest, if you or someone else don't burn it, this will be burnt off at some stage anyway by the government so that the fuel levels are reduced and eliminates the risk of out of control fires.
In carbon terms the burning is irrelevant. If you leave the wood in the forest it rots down and releases the CO2. There are some issues about dead trees as habitat and nutrients into the soil etc, but overall burning the wood is not such a bad thing.
....who cares about the emissions. ...
Particle emissions are not a problem when there's a wind to blow them away, and not too many fires, and when the fires are working well.
It only becomes a problem when there's a heap of fires in a dense urban environment and the fires are done badly. Then you get smogs, and respiratory problems and toxic air quality issues.
The legendary fogs in London during the nineteenth century came from too many home fireplaces burning wood and coal in a dense urban environment.
... If you are using dead growth from the forrest, if you or someone else don't burn it, this will be burnt off at some stage anyway by the government so that the fuel levels are reduced and eliminates the risk of out of control fires.
In carbon terms the burning is irrelevant. If you leave the wood in the forest it rots down and releases the CO2. There are some issues about dead trees as habitat and nutrients into the soil etc, but overall burning the wood is not such a bad thing.
Diggers and truckers on Stubbs terrace. Will serve you well mate. Only $10 a bag of approx 20kg which compared to the tiny 10kg bags from bunnings which I think are around $12, is a damn good deal. Not far from scarbs at all and if you want a trailer load they'll happily do that or even a boot load in your car. Just call beforehand to make sure they have some. The timber is jarrah from house demolitions and is all cut into good sized blocks. We often pick up verge wood., and now have a small chainsaw. Our neighbour chopped down a big tree so we got loads of logs last year which should be good and dry for this winter.
I am down in Esperance, doing a home build, anyhow I will be coming up a few times this winter to pickup building products with my truck, 6 wheeler 8 meter long tipping tray, I have been considering taking up loads of fire wood to help cover some fuel costs, I can deliver as have a vehicle in Perth i can bring up my box trailer on the truck, can deliver a whole load on the truck for about $500 if anyone wants and has a place for tipping the load on their property , would be about 5 box trailers worth as no side boards on the truck to stack too high.
looks like going from sporto prices its usually considered cheap for anything less than $50c a kg , so could weight and sell at a rate of 40c a kilo for pickup or 50c/kg for delivery. Or $110 a box trailer load delivered around Perth.
its not jarrah , its a gum - can find out exact what it is and post later, use it myself for heating and when reduced the flue overnight it usually lasts into the morning.
hope to be heading up late may to pickup some sheet piles so can deliver around then.
Be careful in using building wood waste in a fire....a lot of it treated, which can give off cyanide and other gasses which is not great for your health!!!!
I am down in Esperance, doing a home build, anyhow I will be coming up a few times this winter to pickup building products with my truck, 6 wheeler 8 meter long tipping tray, I have been considering taking up loads of fire wood to help cover some fuel costs, I can deliver as have a vehicle in Perth i can bring up my box trailer on the truck, can deliver a whole load on the truck for about $500 if anyone wants and has a place for tipping the load on their property , would be about 5 box trailers worth as no side boards on the truck to stack too high.
looks like going from sporto prices its usually considered cheap for anything less than $50c a kg , so could weight and sell at a rate of 40c a kilo for pickup or 50c/kg for delivery. Or $110 a box trailer load delivered around Perth.
its not jarrah , its a gum - can find out exact what it is and post later, use it myself for heating and when reduced the flue overnight it usually lasts into the morning.
hope to be heading up late may to pickup some sheet piles so can deliver around then.
just make sure you have all your relevant permits and licences handy and up to date, and your wood has been inspected and ok'd.
had a few people locally doing a roaring trade in cash firewood , often for years , until they get pulled over. they usually confiscate the vehicles too.
plus a fine.
if its from private property and your notselling it , thats fine, youll just need to have the proof handy![]()
Restrictions on sale of green firewood
A person must not sell as domestic firewood any wood with an internal moisture content of more than 20%, except —
(a) in accordance with a permit authorising the person to do so; or
(b) to a firewood wholesaler or retailer.
it seems from reading up on firewood permits this is mostly regarding green firewood, obviously would require proof the firewood isn't over 20% moisture.
anyhow thanks for heads up. woods from private grown tree plantation, and not native to area.