www.theage.com.au/environment/conservation/browns-gift-his-spiritual-home-20110318-1c0o6.html

I grew up in Tassie, during the great conservation battles of the 70's and 80's, watching Brown trying to shape the way of Tassie politics. Thank God for this fella, his heroic ,almost single handed defence of the environment has resulted in a better place for all Australians. This gesture shows the kind of fella he is. I find it very difficult to put up with the constant attacks on brown by the Right wing shock jocks and the bogan knobs that seem to listen to them.

Who wants to send us back to the Stone Age.

or drill for oil.

Agreed log man, awesome bloke in person with the best intentions. Not portrayed best by the media and definitely at times appears to be a bit of a c***. But I guess if you want change you have to become a little bit extreme otherwise you will not make any impact. I've heard from a few ex-pat taswegians that lived through that period that it's a love hate relationship they had with Brown- more hate than love.

But if in 120 years Tasmania and other areas of pristine wilderness advocated by him are all that is left in the world the guy will be a national hero and well remembered unlike the clown we've got for PM at the moment.

Pretty easy to give your place away when you are set financially for life and because of your sexuality you won't have any kids to take it over when you die. Plus you have a more comfortable place to move into straight away and the gift fits in with your beliefs.

He would be a champion if he gave something like 80% of his pension away and his time to charitable causes that are not related to his political beliefs when he retires.

You won't hear anything about people who give their time to caring for others in the community for no financial compensation. They are true champions.

Mobydisc said...

Pretty easy to give your place away when you are set financially for life and because of your sexuality you won't have any kids to take it over when you die. Plus you have a more comfortable place to move into straight away and the gift fits in with your beliefs.

He would be a champion if he gave something like 80% of his pension away and his time to charitable causes that are not related to his political beliefs when he retires.

You won't hear anything about people who give their time to caring for others in the community for no financial compensation. They are true champions.

"cause of his sexuality he wont have any kids"!!!!!!!. looks like your in the stone age too. Mobydisc, you DO have a choice in what you think. It's not like some god or something has decreed that you'll always be a tool.

I have a (very) grudging respect for him as it takes radicals on both sides to find a happy medium.
But at the moment it ISNT a happy medium.
95% of Australia voted for another party, but we have these fruitcakes giving the orders because Gillard (and Labor) were so desperate to cling to the illusion of power.

Seriously, there is room for Tassie to be "green" and have no jobs, and other states to prop them (Vic NSW, Tas etc) up with a slightly different agenda.
So why are we in a position to get boned by people who have never been to WA (other than Perth)?

Mobydisc said...

CJW said...



Say what you will about Bob Brown but he walks the walk where many just talk the talk. Seriously what's his pension worth? a few million maybe, half of that gets pissed away with said charities 'admin fees'. As the article says Bush care Aust has over 3.5 million hectares of land under it's care which personally I reckon is pretty bloody important. I'm not a greenie by any means by I certainly think that there are parts of this country that should be kept pristine for future generations to enjoy, so in my eyes it's a worthwhile cause.

I agree totally with what you say. Bush Heritage Australia is a great organisation. Its just that this act is seen as being incredibly generous when I don't think it is as it will mean very little personal hardship for Brown and his partner. Plus any hardship is being outweighed by the hug amount of political cudos Brown and the Greens gain from this act. It is a clever political move.

I listened to the head of Bush Heritage Australia interviewed on the radio the other night. He talked about this donation which at that stage all he could mention was a politician was involved. He also talked about a woman giving him a cheque of 1.2 million dollars in 2001 and expecting nothing in return. This money was used to buy a big property in north Queensland. She is a legend. Brown is a politician. Log man likes to use this forum to abuse people who disagree with him.

Lets face it though, people only donate that sort of money if they can easily afford it, you don't see Bill Gates in hardship due to the billions and billions of dollars he donates do you. I don't see why this question of personal hardship is an issue, being generous doesn't mean you send yourself to the wall for the privilege.

Is it a bit of a political stunt, maybe, but I don't see how it's really going to influence someone who isn't already a supporter.

^ I thought they called it the Avocado Party cause it's Green on the outside, soft inside and at its core there's a brown nut.


PS Logman - shouldn't your avatar be Treeman

shark said...
...95% of Australia voted for another party, but we have these fruitcakes giving the orders because Gillard (and Labor) were so desperate to cling to the illusion of power.

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Errrm 92-odd% of Australians voted for (essentially) two other parties. The result was pretty much a tie.

From the AEC below.

Coalition Votes Percentage % Swing %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12 -2.58
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,918 49.88 +2.58

results.aec.gov.au/15508/Website/HouseStateFirstPrefsByParty-15508-NAT.htm

Under Kevin Rudd Labor were voted into power with an overwhelming mandate (5.7% swing, 18 seat majority) to, among other things, deal with climate change. The GFC and other issues (probably self created) came along to divert attention from that.

Malcolm Turnbull was all set to negotiate a carbon pollution reduction scheme before the various factions in the Liberal party screwed him.

Call it a tax or a pollution reduction scheme it's all part of the same ends, to put a price on the pollution generated by high carbon emitting to allow renewable resources to compete on an level playing field.

Tony Abbott continues to be a puppet (or a bully boy) of the ultra-conservative right wing of the liberals. Perhaps if he said something constructive and useful for once we could take him seriously.

Simondo said...

Go bush walking in Tassie, and you will all have a better outlook on life, nature, wilderness, and a slightly better understanding of why Browny is so passionate about the environment.

Top walks in Tassie, with mountains in brackets (no order);
Frenchman's Cap Track (Frenchamn's Cap)
Overland Track (Ossa, Cradle, and Pelion East)
South Coast Track
Freycinet

With The Overland Track - suck in the big ones, and climb Ossa & Pelion East, back to back on the same day. Also, make a 110% effort to get to the top of Cradle. Well worth it. Cradle and Pelion East are very rewarding peaks. Ossa is also a beautiful climb into the sky. But there are a zillion things to see in the park otherwise.

Frenchman's Cap is a brilliant climb too. And brilliant National Park. The Wild Rivers National Park!

AWESOME, I'll add the Franklin river rafting trip / Collingwood river to Ferry pickup

Gorgo said...

shark said...
...95% of Australia voted for another party, but we have these fruitcakes giving the orders because Gillard (and Labor) were so desperate to cling to the illusion of power.

...

Errrm 92-odd% of Australians voted for (essentially) two other parties. The result was pretty much a tie.

what I said but I got 3% wrong sorry. 95% (or 92%, whateva) didnt vote for the parties or agendas that control these frootloops calling the shots now.

Brown is a champ.

He's got the guts to stand for what he believes in when he is surrounded by slimy jellyfish that roll wherever the tide of ignorant opinion take them.

Couldn't give a sh!t that he is gay - he can dress up as Goldilocks for all I care.

BB has championed long-term environmental issues (waaayyy before it was fashionable and gathered votes). His honesty and dignity should be admired - and emulated by the pathetic major parties full of slobbering lick-spittles who can't look beyond their own 3 year meal ticket.

Bob Brown is consistent in his beliefs and a champion. He has succeeded where others haven't in bringing some form of reason to the recent political debate.

He is elected to represent his supporters and he does. I'd much rather having him cutting deals with the current PM than to have the opposition in government.

Again, Tony Abbott is obviously intelligent - but how does he keep kicking so many own goals. I reckon the picture below will come back to haunt him whenever the the next federal election is held.

The big question is why did Julia change her mind on the carbon tax issue? Less than a year ago she was against it. Now she is for it. Yesterday in parliament she was asked about it and surprisingly she failed to answer the question.

Bob Brown has advised he did not force her to change her mind. As he is a saint who never lies, who on earth could have forced the PM to change ALP policy on this?

Whoever forced the PM to do this can basically say "I ended the Gillard government" coz there is no way they are going to win the next election after bringing in this tax. Whatever influence and power the Greens and independents have will disappear.

sausage said...

SomeOtherGuy said...

Bob Brown's bitch? That's more likely to be Tony isn't it...???

Bob Brown's bitch - isn't he some other guy

Silly..........