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Usefulness of the Sharks

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Created by Macroscien > 9 months ago, 31 Jan 2014
Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
31 Jan 2014 4:05PM
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Maybe our curse with abundance of sharks we could alternate into our benefit?

All we need, is to find a use for the sharks.

Your proposals are welcome:

-convince the Chinese to use shark teeth instead of ivory ( and overabundance problem solved here)

-get Japanese trawlers hunting our sharks instead of whales and dolphins

-get Holden to manufacture underwater smart drones to detect, chase and keep sharks away from beaches

-invent world wide lottery for privilege to hunt old big shark ( instead of black rhino) worth $250,000

-import and introduce Orca's to our beaches. Could be trained to keep sharks at distance ( and hopefully will not develop taste for surfers)

-sponsor a big grant for Monash or other Griffith university to develop genetically modified toothless shark, that will feed on jelly fish exclusively from now on

your suggestion ?

Ian K
WA, 4169 posts
31 Jan 2014 2:52PM
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Why do you believe we have an abundance of sharks? A predator population depends on a few things, but prey availability and competition with other predators being two factors. Given that humans have only recently become a major predator in the ocean, competing with sharks for prey, couldn't we deduce that shark populations are at an all time low?

http://darwin.wcupa.edu/beneski/projects/webplots/applets/dyno-pred-prey-ii/webx-pp.html

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
31 Jan 2014 5:16PM
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My line of reasoning

1.There is problem with sharks here -
2.Amount of discussion on this forum and media prove that
3.We have two options:
a) hide head in the sand and pretend that problem doesn't exist or will go away by itself
b) try to find solution to the problem
4.Sharks and people could coexist but not on exactly same ecological niche (same place, same beach)
5.Culling or rather killing shark could reduce population but very unlikely solve that problem
6. There must be alternative solution , lets find it
7. Position ' do nothing' could appear catastrophic for our economy. Maybe Perth and Sydney is befriended with sharks, but I am sure similar fatality on Gold Coast could prove devastating for whole tourist industry here.Having an option for any water paradise around the world all overseas families will choose safer place to spent holiday.

southace
SA, 4794 posts
31 Jan 2014 6:24PM
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358,192 humans per day are born ....... Yeah there's a problem with sharks taking over the ocean and eating all the surfers righto.

The only ones agreeing with culling sharks comes from a small group of surfers on the WA coast.

pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
31 Jan 2014 4:53PM
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whereas the ones disagreeing with the cull are those making money out of baiting them up to a boat so people can look at them from a shark cage.

SP
10982 posts
31 Jan 2014 4:56PM
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I still reckon fish and chips is the main purpose.

Maybe we could solve world hunger and feed the starving fish and chips.

Anyone know where we can get a ****load of potatoes.

southace
SA, 4794 posts
31 Jan 2014 7:28PM
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pweedas said..

whereas the ones disagreeing with the cull are those making money out of baiting them up to a boat so people can look at them from a shark cage.



The whole idea of cage diving is to experience viewing a protected slightly endanger species ......might have to start up cage diving with tiger sharks soon now they are in the cull firing line! Haha

Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
31 Jan 2014 8:22PM
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'Flake' the other white meat.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
31 Jan 2014 7:35PM
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If we could attach convicted terrorists as a bait to this drums in Perth, stream the video on Youtube, that will be very novel use of sharks...
Forget electric chair and turn to green energy
Should we call it " humane culling" ?.

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
31 Jan 2014 6:24PM
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SP said..

I still reckon fish and chips is the main purpose.

Maybe we could solve world hunger and feed the starving fish and chips.

Anyone know where we can get a ****load of potatoes.


You do understand that Great White sharks aren't served in Fish and chips

SP
10982 posts
31 Jan 2014 7:52PM
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^^^

No. I'm stupid.

Thanks for learning me good.

I can't believe it's not great white, you mean I can't eat endangered species, better ask for a refund on that lion steak I had last week.

JacobMatan
WA, 431 posts
31 Jan 2014 8:23PM
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Ok guys what we really need to be asking ourselves is what have sharks done for us lately? F**K all thats what !! Except having a bit of a nibble on us at the moment.

Sharks have been on this planet for 70 million years or so and what have they done or accomplished in that time? Same answer F**K all!!!

Humans have been here for just a couple million years and we are pretty much running ** now. We have built lots of big stuff and invented amazing things like Jet planes, spaceships, submarines, internet forums and chem trails whilst the most a shark has ever done was play a good leading role in the Jaws movie!!!

Seriously its time for sharks to show us some respect!!

They are not top of the food chain, WE are the top of the food chain!!! They don't even know what a food chain is and it wasn't even called that before we called it that so screw them!!! I would like to see them all down at cott beach protesting after one of us got killed in a car accident or something like that but they wouldn't because they don't care!!!

Screw the Sharks!!
and don't even get me started on those big fat whales, swimming around contributing to green house gas emissions with their humungous whale farts

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
31 Jan 2014 8:34PM
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Has the Great White Shark become the new sacred cow of our Indian Ocean coastline ?

The man-in-the-grey-suit has become a pampered fish,

allowed to roam unharmed,

munching on whatever takes it's fancy.

The protest movement is the new official religion,

believing that the shark is the new symbol of the sea,

a fish that gives so much,

yet asks nothing in return.

lol.

FormulaNova
WA, 15093 posts
1 Feb 2014 5:32AM
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Macroscien said..

Maybe our curse with abundance of sharks we could alternate into our benefit?


Who says they are abundant? My take on it is that they are just used to eating around where we want to swim, so culling them would only work if its done at those places. If they were culled in the middle of the ocean, its not going to change anything.

Bento
WA, 74 posts
1 Feb 2014 6:06AM
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Macro science was just having a bit off fun.

I thought it was hilarious.

Pitty the thread has been hijacked.

Rex
WA, 949 posts
1 Feb 2014 9:19AM
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JacobMatan said..


and don't even get me started on those big fat whales, swimming around contributing to green house gas emissions with their humungous whale farts


Now now, obesity isn,t something to be joked about.

kiterboy
2614 posts
1 Feb 2014 10:28AM
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southace said...
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pweedas said..

whereas the ones disagreeing with the cull are those making money out of baiting them up to a boat so people can look at them from a shark cage.



The whole idea of cage diving is to experience viewing a protected slightly endanger species ......might have to start up cage diving with tiger sharks soon now they are in the cull firing line! Haha


As you know, they aren't endangered.
And as you well know from your mates at the CSIRO, the result of you baiting them up alters their behaviour and makes them associate humans with getting a feed.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
1 Feb 2014 3:58PM
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All this lament about lost sharks is associated with inherited human admiration for aggression.
The most scary and aggressive, blood thirsty creature is that more attention receive and support to survive.
Nobody care about similar size tuna going straight to our table and dish.
We are quick to incorporate Eagle into our banners but nobody put a pace loving geese or useful chicken there.

This again should provoke all this Green lobby to think again, that what they do promote is in straight contradiction with their world pace program.
We are trying to eliminate or at least restrict one more aggressor from our surroundings.

Lets make love not wars.


First step could be attempt to develop genetically modified sea algae with high THC content - sort of underwater Marijuana weed. Feed them to sharks and after next few million years they could evolve and modify their behavior.
Then we will see sharks climbing onto Japanese trawlers to hang banners and protest against whale culling -their beloved brothers.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
1 Feb 2014 4:31PM
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beastsurf said..

They must have seen last nights news and the 2.8m one they let go.


Well, there is my invention.
Shark that is already 2.8 meters long will be 3.0 in "x" months/ days.

So lets develop Shark Time Bomb.

Each get caught now shark could be implanted with time bomb setup to activate in
- two months from now - for 2.8 meters shark
- two years for the younger
Anyway device will make sure that shark that reached prescribed length will be eliminated

Another option could be proximity sensor.
Buoys across the beaches and other protected from shark area could activate that internal bomb or at least send electric shock.
Lets get our famous professor next $300k to develop Shark Time Bomb / Electric Shock Implant.

I have already some suggestion for delivery system that could be both efficient and cheap to introduce.
Instead of the bait drums that need human crew to deal with each caught shark -
bait will be stacked with this electronic device and when swallowed - activated by stomach acid - to spring and penetrate to internal cavity from perforated intestine.
Additional optional GPS logger could record whole shark life to be later replay in scientific studies , when caught.

Macroscien
QLD, 6808 posts
1 Feb 2014 5:23PM
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Shark Diversion Project

The most success with pro shark propaganda is in diverting public attention from things that really matter to the safe topic that is completely pointless but emotionally addictive.
Lets think : How many sharks could be "culled" in such government program ( one ? two?? dozen ??) and if that number have really any impact on global shark population ?
How many cyclist will be "culled" on our roads in this same time ? How many drug/alcohol addicts will die? Even gun shots be fired ?

No , public will enjoy safe conversation on safe sharks topics.

Lets catch some sharks , and send a gift to the Syria, Ukraine, Somalia and NK to take care about our gifts.
Lets them people in this countries to discuss what to do with our gift, make referendum, stage protests.
Put a big fish tank in the central parade square to scary people with this real monster that kills people.

Crowds will come, look at the creature and compare to their own monster dictator , only to realize that the last one
is indeed tootles and defenseless like a sheep.

I think that will be very good use of our sharks.

Seacht
WA, 376 posts
1 Feb 2014 3:49PM
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It would make you embarrassed to be a Human sometimes.....
www.businessinsider.com.au/undercover-activists-say-theyve-found-a-factory-in-china-turning-endangered-whale-sharks-into-soup-and-lipstck-2014-1
I believe We (Humans) won't stop until pretty much everything is gone anyhow.. The justifications for this shark cull malarky here is just further proof of that.

Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
2 Feb 2014 10:32AM
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Sharks make great threads........



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