True Super Hero!!! Our wikileaks founder.

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FlySurfer
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26 Jul 2010 10:25pm
Julian Assange


I'm sure he'd object to me calling him a hero, but he still put aside his safety and managed to dodge USA intelligence services for many weeks to bring us the truth.

Keep up the good work mate
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FlySurfer
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26 Jul 2010 10:56pm
WAIT!!!!


It's on the propaganda services... his activities have been on the propaganda services too often recently... damn it, he's been played!

It's a disinfo operation... Julian your still a hero but you've been played... better clarify what you know.
japie
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27 Jul 2010 1:28am
Love to know what a life insurance policy would be worth for him!
Jimmyz
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27 Jul 2010 9:21am
Good man. Down with the self-righteous pricks who think they have the right to censor information to those who permit the existence of their authority.

We need more people like him.
evlPanda
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27 Jul 2010 10:05am
FlySurfer said...

WAIT!!!!


It's on the propaganda services... his activities have been on the propaganda services too often recently... damn it, he's been played!

It's a disinfo operation... Julian your still a hero but you've been played... better clarify what you know.


I'm pretty sure the "propoganda services" are the intended audience, that is the wider, international community, not just lonely guys living in their mum's spare room.
japie
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27 Jul 2010 10:34am
In a statement, US National Security Adviser Gen James Jones said such classified information "could put the lives of Americans and our partners at risk".

Had to have a chuckle when I read that! I would have thought that it was at the forefront of his mind that they are already at grave risk and that his administration was responsible for putting them there in the first place. Probably also armed the opposition!
FlySurfer
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27 Jul 2010 10:50am
Julian has disclaimer-ed the release... paraphrasing what he said @ the Frontline Club in London: While the source is verifiable the content may or may not be accurate.

So he's saying he got it from the US military but he doesn't know if the documents tell the truth... then went on to highlight some inconsistencies.
japie
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27 Jul 2010 3:43pm


evlPanda
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27 Jul 2010 4:53pm
As people trawl through 91,000 documents there's more and more coming out. Civilian deaths, friendly fire incidents, many of which were previously unreported or reported as something else.

There's a year's worth of news buried in these documents.

I hate that the deaths of troops seem to garner more sympathy than the deaths of civilians, children and all.
echunda
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27 Jul 2010 5:02pm
What did I miss?

What did he do?
mineral1
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27 Jul 2010 3:40pm
echunda said...

What did I miss?

What did he do?


Some Zyloom is being used to promote stuff on his web site, with the guise that its all red hot secret squirrel club stuff when its not at all. The data is old news. He is being used to enable sections of industry to promote an alternative agenda. All of a sudden Pakistan and Iran are now the ring leaders in all that has taken place, spy agency double cross blah blah blah.
Makes one wonder what the real agenda is, and who would benefit financially should the current policy take a sharp turn left or right when panic is setting in on the political front in the USA.
NotWal
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27 Jul 2010 7:52pm

Voting for censorship is like voting for ignorance. Poke my eyes out and be my guide.

So which party has a policy of fast internet without the censorship?
theDoctor
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27 Jul 2010 9:18pm
evlPanda said...


I'm pretty sure the "propoganda services" are the intended audience, that is the wider, international community, not just lonely guys living in their mum's spare room.


HEY, i resemble that comment...

..but i don't live with mother, my mothe lives with ME
Carantoc
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27 Jul 2010 9:30pm
echunda said...

What did I miss?

What did he do?


You missed nothing.

He did nothing.

He didn't spend 4 years at university, 6 years in training, then 30 years as a nurse working long shifts for not much pay to ease the suffering of sick people

He didn't become a primary school teacher and go work in a deprived area and spend all his waking life trying to instill enthusiasum into children to lift them out of poverty.

He didn't volunteer for overseas aid work in a third world country.


He is named as the director of a bunch of nerds who set up a web site on which people can anomolously post stuff that other people then believe is 100% true because it is on his web site and because it is the opposite of what they read elsewhere.

Quite interestingly some strange stuff happened recently which Wikileaks said was due to 'funding shortages'. If you delve deeper there seems to be some strange PR and spin designed to canvas public support, whip up funds and discredit people who don't fund Wikileaks.

I say quite interesting as no leaked e-mails from one Wikileaks director to another director talking about how they could spin up some PR have ever appeared on Wikileaks.

In fact the inner workings of Wikileaks is a bigger secret to the world than the inner workings of the US military. Which I find ironic, I am sure others find to be necessary to protect against attack.

Seems that some secrets are best kept as secrets - which is something both Wikileaks and the US military agree on, so end of the day - he did nothing.
nebbian
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27 Jul 2010 11:02pm
NotWal said...

So which party has a policy of fast internet without the censorship?


Y'see, there's the rub.

It's definitely not labour.

Libs support internet filtering, they don't want the NBN, but they have rumbled about an 'alternative' fast broadband.

The greens are a good bet, but a vote for the greens means that if they don't get in then you just voted for Labour.

I reckon voting should be like a big old referendum, you don't vote for parties, you vote for issues.
No internet filter - big tick
Fast downloads, and a guaranteed connection when you move house - tick
Daylight saving - tick [}:)]
20 knots every day - BIG TICK!!!


windaddict
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28 Jul 2010 9:26am
nebbian said...

NotWal said...

So which party has a policy of fast internet without the censorship?


Y'see, there's the rub.

It's definitely not labour.

Libs support internet filtering, they don't want the NBN, but they have rumbled about an 'alternative' fast broadband.

The greens are a good bet, but a vote for the greens means that if they don't get in then you just voted for Labour.

I reckon voting should be like a big old referendum, you don't vote for parties, you vote for issues.
No internet filter - big tick
Fast downloads, and a guaranteed connection when you move house - tick
Daylight saving - tick [}:)]
20 knots every day - BIG TICK!!!





25+ knots, day off - TICK!
cranky
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28 Jul 2010 11:40am
Carantoc said...

In fact the inner workings of Wikileaks is a bigger secret to the world than the inner workings of the US military. Which I find ironic, I am sure others find to be necessary to protect against attack.




A true hero, a true traitor or a true puppet?
FlySurfer
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28 Jul 2010 3:37pm
NotWal said...


Voting for censorship is like voting for ignorance. Poke my eyes out and be my guide.

So which party has a policy of fast internet without the censorship?


The LDP believes in No Internet Censorship
http://www.ldp.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1032:not-evil-just-wrong&catid=108:admin&Itemid=29

The LDP supports voluntary voting, citizens initiated referenda, fixed parliamentary terms, recall elections, constitutional protection of private property and sunset clauses on legislation. ...
The LDP supports the right to own firearms for sport, hunting, collecting and self-defence. ...
The LDP supports competitive federalism as it was intended by the founders of the constitution. ...
The LDP believes traffic laws should strike a better balance between safety and efficient travel. ...
The LDP believes those who choose to use motorcycles and scooters should not be discouraged by government policies. ...
Trant
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28 Jul 2010 10:01pm
Quite an interesting story on Wikileaks co-founder John Young here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html

Operating a Web site to post leaked documents isn't very expensive (Young estimates he spends a little over $100 a month for Cryptome's server space). So when other Wikileaks founders started to talk about the need to raise $5 million and complained that an initial round of publicity had affected "our delicate negotiations with the Open Society Institute and other funding bodies," Young says, he resigned from the effort.


And he has in fact 'leaked' early Wikileak emails here! :

cryptome.org/wikileaks/wikileaks-leak.htm

A good read, make of it what you will.
evlPanda
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29 Jul 2010 4:46pm
^ It would have been cheap as chips to initally setup, but as a site gathers more and more traffic it can become expensive. The Setup I worked on two years ago consumed $100,000/year in electricity alone. That is not uncommon.

edit: and the current I.T. project I am on, I just had confirmed, is running at $900,000/month. It will have taken 2 years when complete.

Funny: One complaint from a user/employee we saw was that the upgrade cost $26,000. Somebody missing some zeroes there.
evlPanda
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29 Jul 2010 6:28pm
This week Wikileaks released more than 90,000 government documents related to the war in Afghanistan. When added to the perceived damage caused by its earlier leaking of the 'Collateral Murder' video, Wikileaks is now undoubtedly a serious target for U.S. authorities. After becoming The Pirate Bay's ISP, The Pirate Party now says that if needed, they will supply servers and hosting to Wikileaks.

Sauce: torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-offers-servers-and-hosting-to-wikileaks-100728/
maxm
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29 Jul 2010 6:46pm
^^^

Server hosting costs aside, apparently Mr Assange spends a lot of time travelling very carefully so as to avoid US entrapment. Bet that costs a bit.

If you're interested, he's supposed to be interviewed on Lateline tonight on ABC1
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