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Waveless
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22 Aug 2013 8:54am
Hey all, so we woke to hear a couple people run off after a thud and later found that they had tried to use a screw driver to jar open our garage door. Furthermore, all our fly screen doors had been opened as they had tried other means of getting in. Called the police etc and all so that is sorted.

Now the door is wood so there's a little chunk of it missing just under the lock and was wondering if anyone had tips on fixing the thing? We have two locks for that door so I guess we were blessed that they did not get in and only loose change lying outside was taken.
Supergus
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22 Aug 2013 12:16pm
Get a really big dog!!
ikw777
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22 Aug 2013 12:33pm
Waveless said..

Hey all, so we woke to hear a couple people run off after a thud and later found that they had tried to use a screw driver to jar open our garage door. Furthermore, all our fly screen doors had been opened as they had tried other means of getting in. Called the police etc and all so that is sorted.

Now the door is wood so there's a little chunk of it missing just under the lock and was wondering if anyone had tips on fixing the thing? We have two locks for that door so I guess we were blessed that they did not get in and only loose change lying outside was taken.


Post a photo of the door.
patsken
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22 Aug 2013 11:04am
A few years ago we had some low life use a large screwdriver to prise open a dead-bolted wood framed window. The wood split where the bolt went into the frame so I used a router and set a six inch length of angle iron along the back edge of the frame so that the bolt went through the steel and then into the wood frame. It basically reinforced the wood frame and you can hardly notice it after painting..
Fixed the problem ---- unless someone uses a crow bar or a brick
Cambodge
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22 Aug 2013 1:22pm
Waveless said..
there's a little chunk of it missing...and was wondering if anyone had tips on fixing the thing?


I recommend Q-cells with some carbon stringers then glass it over (making sure you wet the whole surface to avoid delam later). And use the correct glue to avoid melting the core.

Ohhhh, it's a door. Sorry, I thought I was in the windsurf forum
MDSXR6T
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22 Aug 2013 11:43am
Supergus said..Get a really big dog!!


Yep! Win win really. Kids and the mrs get a puppy but when it grows up, teach it to only accept food and treats from you and they'll be the best house and family protection around.



He might look cute but 6 years down the track, he barks loudly if anyone comes near my house. I was involved in an armed B&E at work and the coppers told me that big dogs are the #1 deterrents for this type of stuff.



FormulaNova
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22 Aug 2013 11:46am
Cambodge said..

Waveless said..
there's a little chunk of it missing...and was wondering if anyone had tips on fixing the thing?


I recommend Q-cells with some carbon stringers then glass it over (making sure you wet the whole surface to avoid delam later). And use the correct glue to avoid melting the core.

Ohhhh, it's a door. Sorry, I thought I was in the windsurf forum



Hey, I know you're joking, but I do use epoxy and filler to fill nicks in my doors. It is stronger than putty, and I have a fair bit lying around.

Waveless
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22 Aug 2013 5:37pm
Thanks guys, I can always count on the SB crew to provide good advice while brightening up the day for me. Am definately pushing for that dog although tis a tough sell!
MDSXR6T
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22 Aug 2013 3:45pm
Waveless said...
Thanks guys, I can always count on the SB crew to provide good advice while brightening up the day for me. Am definately pushing for that dog although tis a tough sell!


When i bought Rex, i was living at home and mum was so against the idea of a dog. I knew she wasnt mean enough to kick me out so bought him home and she loved him so much so that she named him (super original name eh)

Fast forward 18 months and she was less than impressed with him destroying our garden, outdoor furniture and retic. Now shes more concerned with his welfare than mine!

Your missus will love a puppy and just remember its much easier to beg for forgiveness than get permission
BabaORiley
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23 Aug 2013 3:50am
Only those without dogs on our street have had break-ins.
Had a young indigenous lad come over to fix a plumbing problem. When he knocked on the door our big dog(black, hairy and 70kg) greeted him.
To the kids credit he told us he would never come near my house or his mates with a dog or any dog on the property.
Sailhack
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23 Aug 2013 10:09am
Move house!
Cambodge
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23 Aug 2013 11:32am
Sailhack said..
Move house!


On the contrary, it sounds like your house is adequately protected given that the break-in was unsuccessful!
FlySurfer
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23 Aug 2013 1:59pm
Waveless said..

Hey all, so we woke to hear a couple people run off after a thud and later found that they had tried to use a screw driver to jar open our garage door. Furthermore, all our fly screen doors had been opened as they had tried other means of getting in. Called the police etc and all so that is sorted.

Now the door is wood so there's a little chunk of it missing just under the lock and was wondering if anyone had tips on fixing the thing? We have two locks for that door so I guess we were blessed that they did not get in and only loose change lying outside was taken.


Get a sign that reads: Intruders will be shot... I have the best lawyer.
Ellobuddha
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23 Aug 2013 3:38pm


I use this fella. He is 46kg. He's very intimidating when he sticks his paws and head over the side fence and eyeballs people walking past. Awesome dog. He will lay down on front lawn and thirty people will walk past no problems. A sh/tbag walks past and he is straight up the fence growling at them. Amazing how they can pick people. My little nephew also sleeps on him and he just lays there. Awesome dog.
BabaORiley
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24 Aug 2013 10:43pm
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Ellobuddha said..


I use this fella. He is 46kg. He's very intimidating when he sticks his paws and head over the side fence and eyeballs people walking past. Awesome dog. He will lay down on front lawn and thirty people will walk past no problems. A sh/tbag walks past and he is straight up the fence growling at them. Amazing how they can pick people. My little nephew also sleeps on him and he just lays there. Awesome dog.


thats awesome
moohan
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25 Aug 2013 1:07am
I had a little spate of issues a few years back, started with a break in (got slack with locking the security door, they kicked in the wooden door), and then had them return a couple of times (left the same shoe pattern). I ended up putting signs up in the windows that what few valuables I had were engraved, and that they have been filmed entering the property via hidden surveilance. The last time I had foot prints leading to the house, they only got as far as one of the signs. Hopefully they just think it's too hard basket and move on.... oh, and now we have a big dog and security lights. Not had an issue since.
Ian K
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25 Aug 2013 7:39am
Ellobuddha said...



My sunday morning sleep in was cut short by a fella just like this one. Probably bought for this reason . No doubt they stop burglars, but if you're not a doggie person it's an expensive way to do it. If you don't normally go for an hours walk each day, (which is good for both you and the dog), then you've got to cost it out at say $25 an hour. Food's at least $3.00 a day. then there's the vet bills. Unless you're losing 5 or 6 TVs a year to burglars, save your money. But if you go the dog, the German Shephards are good, they don't have pit fighting genes, they start off with a warning bite. They don't have huge jaw muscles and they know how to let go. Yes I've had a carefully calibrated warning bite from the Shephard next door. Didn't quite break the skin, but I knew I'd been bitten.

Our other neighbour has an American pitbull. Lovely dog, doesn't bark, slobbers all over you. But still I find it way more scary than the bitey Shephard. The instincts inside its head must be in turmoil. If it did have a brain snap and decide to bite, I'd be lucky to survive.
deejay8204
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Boxer101
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26 Aug 2013 2:29am
Ellobuddha said..



I use this fella. He is 46kg. He's very intimidating when he sticks his paws and head over the side fence and eyeballs people walking past. Awesome dog. He will lay down on front lawn and thirty people will walk past no problems. A sh/tbag walks past and he is straight up the fence growling at them. Amazing how they can pick people. My little nephew also sleeps on him and he just lays there. Awesome dog.



Great dog. How do you know the people he barks at really are ****bags? Do they goad him? How can you tell?

OP, definitely get a dog. Also, learn how to throw some bungalows, just in case you meet him in the hallway!
MDSXR6T
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26 Aug 2013 10:51am
I reckon dogs in general are a pretty good judge of character. My shepherd might bark a bit when someone comes to our door that he doesn't know but if i'm walking him, he'll rarely bark at people. Those who raise his hackles have that "look"

He doesnt trust other dogs (other than dog training group) though as he was attacked at an early age by a staffy and white fluffy.
Underoath
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26 Aug 2013 1:40pm
You don't need a big dog, just a loud "Yappy" one...

I'm not talking about the Staffy, the Maltese crosbreed is the king of guard dogs.



The staffy will just lick you to death.
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26 Aug 2013 1:50pm
^^ haha right on with the small dogs - always barking!

and same goes for staffy - mine loves everyone and only barks (at me) when I play fight with her.. but boy such an awesome temperament

Chris6791
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26 Aug 2013 3:58pm
A good security tip would be to not splash your home, car and security arrangements all over the Internet.
Chris6791
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26 Aug 2013 4:21pm
But you can disarm it with a hoodie
Chris6791
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26 Aug 2013 4:40pm
But in all seriousness you need a layered defence.

Landscaping, keep it lower than two feet, or higher than 6 feet ( ie the lower foliage on trees)
Security screens on the doors and windows, they are ugly but they allow you to open the windows without compromising security.
Actually lock your doors, even when home
Dogs are good.
If you go the CCTV option, plant the first camera covertly so you might get the approaching the house unaware they have already been pinged.
Big fancy cameras are good but they are also saying 'I've got some good **** to steal'.

Unless you are unlucky enough to get broken into by someone off their head most burglars are inherently lazy. They want the easy gear. Smashing windows is loud, unlocked doors are easy, a lot will just go door to door very quietly at night looking for unlocked doors so they can sneak in while you are sleeping. If your house is secure they will just keep heading up the street until they hit the jackpot.
Simondo
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26 Aug 2013 10:19pm
Our Labrador barks really well! Big Bennie...
He barks loud at the kids for Trick or Treat... I open the door, the dogs bolts out and just starts sniffing the kids and the treats! The kids have to earn their lollies at my place!!! LoL!
Simondo
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26 Aug 2013 10:23pm
Point Cook Sanctuary Lakes - gated golf course estate, they have 2 security patrol cars with video cameras, plus number plate recognition at the entry... Virtually zero break and enter, $350 per year service... Crime rates are 1/10th of surrounding suburbs... Insurances are also lower...
busterwa
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26 Aug 2013 9:54pm
I deleted the set-up Chris but its highly effective especially when im working night-shifts. Id so love to get a dog but my mum and dad had to Rottweiler and there place still got broken into. The unemployable **** junkies kickedthe front door in and bashed the rotty`s to near death ;-( It was an 60 kilo rotty
I guess there is a difference between bringing up a dog as a famby pet or as a guard dog.
I couldnt ever allow myself to bring up a dog that would be aggressive. Theses dogs are fine but unfortunately there is a fine line between a security dog and a house pet.

As far as a security, the cameras has allowed me to to monitor my premises day night remotely the night vision is a serious advantage when im on nightshift (if the misses hears a sound she just goes on her samsung and logs in and views the cameras. I understand that hoodies and balaclavas may block the end result but when i have there photo there finger prints Its game over.
landyacht
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26 Aug 2013 10:05pm
we live in a street that is a scumbags highway to the fastfood joints at night.
we always bring the cars up the driveway.locks an dowels in the windows.
deadlocks on the doors, with large faceplates.
avoid sidegates on the side of houses and taller fences as it gives them places to hide.
leave your recycling big out of reach as the materials they need to braek in are often in that bin.
If you dont have a deadlock on your door a strip of petalite(2l fruit juice bottle ) will slide into the lock and open the door in seconds.
. If you even think there is a prowler ring the police and tell them the intruder is still out there.
They have special dogs that can really track a scumbag
busterwa
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26 Aug 2013 10:22pm
I couldn't agree with you more Land If there is a serious breach of your premisses please dial your local police and do-not approach the perpetrator.
Until the The laws in Western Australia change supported civilian /citizen action is not endorsed. you may be held liable or even sued.
beastsurf
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26 Aug 2013 10:23pm
Thats heavy buster. The crook should be charged with att murder in my book. All the mentioned ideas are great. I think another option would be if the magistrates imposed the full penalties on the rotten mungrells. I have a big german shepherd and allthough he is a formitable site I'm not sure if he would do much if someone broke in. Having said that the sight of him would scare the bejessus out of a would be bad guy.
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