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There's a 463,000,000,000km cloud of alcohol...

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Created by evlPanda > 9 months ago, 5 Apr 2014
evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
5 Apr 2014 6:48PM
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...only 10,000 light years away.

How do we get there?



phys.org/news/2006-04-astronomers-alcohol-cloud-spanning-billion.html

Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
5 Apr 2014 7:52PM
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By going on a Space crawl ...

theDoctor
NSW, 5786 posts
5 Apr 2014 8:05PM
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What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export

myusernam
QLD, 6155 posts
5 Apr 2014 8:58PM
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theDoctor said...

What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export

Best beer ever

stamp
QLD, 2797 posts
5 Apr 2014 9:26PM
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theDoctor said..


What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export


then it's not far away enough...

stamp
QLD, 2797 posts
5 Apr 2014 9:28PM
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myusernam said..

theDoctor said...

What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export

Best beer ever


i'm pretty sure it's made by fermenting roadkill emus- that's where the name comes from

Cassa
WA, 1305 posts
5 Apr 2014 9:24PM
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myusernam said..

theDoctor said...

What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export

Best beer ever


Mark _australia
WA, 23581 posts
5 Apr 2014 10:08PM
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Just wonderng if light bends (diffraction) and also has a spectrum change (red shift) over that massive distance, and also they reckon gravity does too, maybe even time!!! -- how the **** do they know a blob of something is methanol?

I challenge them to tell the difference between ethanol and methanol over 100km.

pweedas
WA, 4642 posts
5 Apr 2014 11:51PM
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Ten to one it's just a really big beer fart from some giant intergalactic space trash being, making his way back home after a drunken binge in a nearby galaxy. I guess he dumped it out a porthole or something. No point in being cooped up in a spaceship with something like that.
Either that or his mates threw him out of the ship while he was still dumping it.

patsken
WA, 713 posts
6 Apr 2014 12:10AM
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stamp said..

myusernam said..

theDoctor said...

What they fail to tell you is. .....

its all emu export

Best beer ever


i'm pretty sure it's made by fermenting roadkill emus- that's where the name comes from


There is a reason it's called EXPORT....

Aussies don't want it !!

Darkspi
SA, 171 posts
6 Apr 2014 9:14PM
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growning up with emu export was awsome but emu black was the best fracking beer ever! or was it swan black I remember swan gold do they still have it ??

Stuthepirate
SA, 3591 posts
6 Apr 2014 9:26PM
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^^^
Bondy's beer





Pitbull
WA, 1267 posts
6 Apr 2014 8:32PM
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I'll just have a carton thanks.

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
7 Apr 2014 10:13AM
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Mark _australia said..

Just wonderng if light bends (diffraction) and also has a spectrum change (red shift) over that massive distance, and also they reckon gravity does too, maybe even time!!! -- how the **** do they know a blob of something is methanol?

I challenge them to tell the difference between ethanol and methanol over 100km.



Nobel prize challenger right here folks.

NotWal
QLD, 7436 posts
7 Apr 2014 12:43PM
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Mark _australia said..

Just wonderng if light bends (diffraction) and also has a spectrum change (red shift) over that massive distance, and also they reckon gravity does too, maybe even time!!! -- how the **** do they know a blob of something is methanol?

I challenge them to tell the difference between ethanol and methanol over 100km.


Their spectral absorption profiles are different.
nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/jres/048/jresv48n4p281_A1b.pdf

Mark _australia
WA, 23581 posts
7 Apr 2014 2:15PM
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^^ Yes indeed they are.

So let's think about anything that analyses a spectrum, say a GC mass spectrometer in a lab. The tiniest bit of crap in there will ruin the results.
Or the level of cleanliness required of all kinds of measuring equipment with vacuums or dry gas purged environments blah blah cos even water vapour will skew results.

If you believe that in 10K light years - an unimaginable distance full of dust n gasses etc - that there is no interference then you have a lot of faith.

You can't extrapolate or calculate for such errors as you can only do that if somebody has been to the site (ie so we know what is there and then the readings from here so we KNOW what the error is.
Bit like if I say an object at about 1km away is 20m high and we have no frame of reference. You would not believe me and rightly so.

Faith.

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
7 Apr 2014 2:51PM
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^^^ I've no idea what you are talking about but surely with all their observations they would have a baseline level of interference they can factor in?

FlySurfer
NSW, 4460 posts
7 Apr 2014 4:52PM
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The Police are already making plans for an RBT out there.

... this is as far as they've got...

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
7 Apr 2014 3:01PM
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Yeah it didn't pass the first OSH inspection, working alone in remote areas...

Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
7 Apr 2014 6:37PM
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^^^ hope the speed camera allows for red shifting...

NotWal
QLD, 7436 posts
7 Apr 2014 8:01PM
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Mark _australia said..

^^ Yes indeed they are.

So let's think about anything that analyses a spectrum, say a GC mass spectrometer in a lab. The tiniest bit of crap in there will ruin the results.
Or the level of cleanliness required of all kinds of measuring equipment with vacuums or dry gas purged environments blah blah cos even water vapour will skew results.

If you believe that in 10K light years - an unimaginable distance full of dust n gasses etc - that there is no interference then you have a lot of faith.

You can't extrapolate or calculate for such errors as you can only do that if somebody has been to the site (ie so we know what is there and then the readings from here so we KNOW what the error is.
Bit like if I say an object at about 1km away is 20m high and we have no frame of reference. You would not believe me and rightly so.

Faith.


Well yes. I'm no expert but the scientific community displays utter confidence in spectrum analysis. They've been doing it for yonks. They know the problems etc and science is self correcting so I believe they know what they are doing and the probability that they are wrong when they make a strong assertion based on well established techniques is vanishingly small. It's not just alcohol that they have discovered. There are many organic molecules out there.

You can call it "faith". It would be churlish of me to assume you are attempting to disparage reasonable confidence by conflating it with religious "faith" so I will just assume you're not :)

Mark _australia
WA, 23581 posts
8 Apr 2014 9:50AM
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^^^ oh no, be churlish

You know I was doing just that

da vecta
QLD, 2515 posts
8 Apr 2014 6:08PM
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Do you think NASA will name in Boonie-nova?



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