The nanny state, can't even walk u'r goat

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superlizard
superlizard
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7 Dec 2012 8:48am


www.dailytelegraph.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes



This is a letter Jimbo sent off yesterday to The Commander of The Rocks Police Station re our upcoming court case.

Dear Police Commander of the Rocks,
I am writing to you about an infringement notice I got issued from an incident that happened at Circular Quay at about 10am on 22/08/12.
It was issued by a constable whose first name is Shane. I'm not sure of his surname.
The issue related to my goat which was eating grass at the park outside the MCA.
On the day that Shane found me, the first thing he told me was that I'd broken a whole lot of laws.
I asked him to name one and from there the incident has escalated into what I feel is a complete waste of our court systems time and I ask you to consider dropping the matter before it becomes a complete tabloid farce.
Here is a brief summary of the situation from my angle.
I'm a comedian who travels around the country with my goat Gary. He's incredibly tame, follows me everywhere and people love him.
On this particular day I was walking him down George St and was
immediately followed by a Daily Telegraph photographer who
thought it worth taking some snaps of.
He followed me all the way down to Circular Quay where I was surrounded by Shane and about four other police officers.
Like I said before, Shane immediately started telling me that I'd broken a whole lot of laws.
I then asked,' well can you name one?'
And from there on in, Shane didn't like me very much.
He then spent over an hour detaining me while he tried to tell me what law I'd broken, while a crowd slowly built up around us.
He couldn't get me for an out of control animal because my goat wasn't out of control. He couldn't get me for not having it on a leash because it wasn't a dog. This continued on to most people's amusement except Shane's.
In the end he let me go saying he was going to continue to find a law that I had broken and send the fine in the mail to me.
In the meantime the Daily Telegraph sent in photos which made a colour spread on Page three the next day.
The link to the story (with Shane's photo in it) is here:
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes
The reporter made a point of asking the police what happened and they said (as reported in the newspaper) that there was no fine issued.
Shane obviously couldn't let it go though because he sent me a fine for $440 for 'damaging vegetation without authority' about two month later.
The penalty notice is 4912388800
I obviously didn't want to pay this because a) it wasn't me, it was my goat b) My goat wasn't damaging vegetation. He was simply taking the top off some grass plust some leaves off some bushes (next to some council workers with a lawnmower and clippers who were doing the same thing.)
So I applied for my fine to be contested in court assuming Shane wouldn't be silly enough for this to be taken to court given that my key witness was a Daily Telegraph photographer who had been with me the whole time while taking photos of every move my goat did.
Anway, it now looks like we're all going to court over this on 23/1/12.
My case number is 2012/00336061.
It's listed as a crime under, 'Damage, destroy, remove a tree, plant, other vegetation'.
I.e Shane wants me at 42 years of age to have my first criminal record because he found my goat eating grass in public!
To make things more farcical, it's recently being pointed out to me that the Harbour Bridge and George Street is still classified as a stock route.
I've told all this information to several lawyers and they've all told me the case is going to be thrown out of court immediately, so I shouldn't be worried about it.
My key witness, the photographer at The Daily Telegraph has also been told by his editor in chief that there is story potential in this again, especially as my goat will be outside the court (he goes everywhere with me) and for him to bring his camera when he is a witness in the case.
I don't know what the story is going to be but I assume it will be about whether police are trying to catch criminals or create them? Or 'The Nanny state gone too far'.
The last time we made page 3, maybe this time we'll hit the front page if it's a slow news day.
I don't know.
What I do know though is that I want this letter on record to you, to show to the judge that despite this being fantastic publicity for my career as a comedian, I gave the police every chance I could to not let this case be a waste of time on the court system - which I believe it is.
Therefore could you please consider this matter and put some perspective on it (which Shane seems to be lacking) before it goes any further and waste's so many people's time.
At the end of Shane detaining me at Circular Quay I asked him quite honestly if he was always 'the bad cop'.
I was genuinely interested given that there were three cops behind him not saying a word while this all happened.
Shane then said to me, 'No I'm normally the good cop!'
This I found quite interesting because I'm always as a comedian trying to work out what's behind every heckle.
And my comeback (which this letter is ultimately about) is that not even my goat can get through the amount of red tape it takes now to go on a walk in this country.
This fine is simply a 'good cop' trying to practice his 'bad cop' routine on a soft target. I.e a guy with a goat who has done nothing wrong - in a country which is putting up with it more and more.
If you as his Commander and boss can point this out to him while clearing this matter up so that the courts can deal with more serious issues, I'd greatly appreciate it.
And if you can't I thank you in advance for helping me out with my career as comedian.


Yours sincerely

Jimbo Bazoobi

P.S - on the court notice I was issued with, it has been written
that my first name is 'Shane'.
Maybe The Daily Telegraph headline will be 'comedy of errors'?
The one I'm going to be personally pushing for though is, 'Shame, Shane, Shame!'


Info taken from:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=484160284968354&set=a.337650736285977.107569.317694878281563&type=1&ref=nf

Clownfeatures
Clownfeatures
SA
205 posts
SA, 205 posts
7 Dec 2012 8:36am
What's the world coming to when a man can't walk his goat.





Best goat photo I have.
SP
SP
10982 posts
SP SP
10982 posts
7 Dec 2012 7:03pm
^^ You could have at least put one of those Xmas reindeer horn headbands on it

But what a Nanny goat state.....

Hope the goat can Buck the system..... The cop sounds like a dough head.... Just sounds like a kid out for some fun....

SP
SP
10982 posts
SP SP
10982 posts
23 Jan 2013 4:32pm
Goat wins.....


A Sydney magistrate has dismissed charges against a man whose goat was accused of damaging vegetation at Circular Quay last year.

The courtroom at times erupted into fits of giggles at today's hearing in the Downing Centre.

Police fined Jim Dezarnaulds $440 last August, saying he allowed his goat Gary to eat plants and flowers at the Museum of Contemporary Art.

He was charged with destroying vegetation without authority.

News of Gary the Goat's run-in with the law went viral after Mr Dezarnaulds posted the incident on Facebook, attracting more than 300,000 likes.

Before the case was heard, Mr Dezarnaulds - a performer who goes by the name of Jimbo - wrote to The Rocks police asking for the case to be dropped.

In the letter he also thanked them for "helping me out with my career as comedian".

After a lively hearing this morning, the magistrate dismissed the charge, saying Mr Dezarnaulds "had no control over what the goat might eat, he might have preferred an ice cream".

Outside court, Mr Dezarnaulds says Gary has taught police a lesson.

"This is actually an abuse of the laws of nature, I mean it was a goat eating grass," he said.

"I'm a comedian, I can come up with jokes, but it's pretty hard to compete with cops coming up with this stuff.

"It's obviously a joke, but the fact that we're here it's gone a bit beyond a joke."

There is now speculation that an unfortunate mishap outside court may lead Gary to be charged with public urination.
TheWolf
TheWolf
SA
247 posts
SA, 247 posts
23 Jan 2013 8:16pm
So does this mean I can graze my horse where ever I want?
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
23 Jan 2013 8:51pm
TheWolf said...
So does this mean I can graze my horse where ever I want?


I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure that old law regarding horse grazing and hitching are still current, so your horse could probably graze in most places that aren't specifically signed?
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
23 Jan 2013 10:58pm
What is annoying is real crime, ie people getting shot, though they probably deserve it, is taking place less than 30kms away, and these police are busy dealing with what's basically a victimless crime. If the action does not harm an individual's person or property then the police should leave the action taker alone.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
24 Jan 2013 12:16am
Mobydisc said...
What is annoying is real crime, ie people getting shot, though they probably deserve it, is taking place less than 30kms away, and these police are busy dealing with what's basically a victimless crime. If the action does not harm an individual's person or property then the police should leave the action taker alone.


ditto
WTF .I know a number of cops who are gr8 at their job and work damn hard. vindictive shane who has a point to prove against smart arse owner of goat brings shame to the NSW cops and wastes precious resources. what a ego centric wanker and those who support him too are clowns and should be demoted this should have been nipped in the bud ages ago . this case is just plain rediculous and a joke.what a dickhead shane ,hang your head in shame you are a disgrace to the uniform,go back to being a schoolyard playground bully you dic
It all might seem a bit trivial and silly and funny but heads should roll over this BS and shane should be moved to some real front line coppering to see what its like to deal with real fucnuckle crims with some tough nut as his boss that wont stand for his style of wimpy egomaniacle crap .
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
24 Jan 2013 1:17am
If the police banned all the old goats,
who would be left to whinge on seabreeze.com forums??????

You know who you are.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23652 posts
WA, 23652 posts
23 Jan 2013 10:31pm
Sounds like the typical setup from the 'comedian'.

Carry on just enough in public that somebody calls the police, then fire up and almost challenge them to deal with you. Don't take the hint that it is better to leave, but rather choose to force them into a position where they are fkd if they ignore you, and fkd if they charge u with something.

Hilarious. Not.

The waste of time is the 'comedian' who caused all this.

Do we really believe that a random man was minding his own business with a goat and suddenly the Police swooped and deliberately wanted to charge him for anything they could think of ???
As if.
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
24 Jan 2013 8:02am
The nanny state, can't even walk u'r goat

seafever17
seafever17
WA
360 posts
WA, 360 posts
24 Jan 2013 9:49am
Gotta be kidding!!
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
2614 posts
24 Jan 2013 9:52am
Mark _australia said...
Sounds like the typical setup from the 'comedian'.

Carry on just enough in public that somebody calls the police, then fire up and almost challenge them to deal with you. Don't take the hint that it is better to leave, but rather choose to force them into a position where they are fkd if they ignore you, and fkd if they charge u with something.

Hilarious. Not.

The waste of time is the 'comedian' who caused all this.

Do we really believe that a random man was minding his own business with a goat and suddenly the Police swooped and deliberately wanted to charge him for anything they could think of ???
As if.



I actually agree with you for once.

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