The death of television....

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Richiefish
Richiefish
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20 Mar 2011 9:46pm
I used to like TV but now, because of the saturation of ads, it's practically impossible to watch...Why would anyone spend 3 hours to watch a 90 minute movie when you can rent the dvd for two bucks ? How can they justify having more ad time than program time ??? Do they really expect people keep watching ad after ad after ad??? It's all about greed.
CMC
CMC
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CMC CMC
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20 Mar 2011 9:50pm
It's not called 'Commercial' television for no reason.

I have cable, it is predominantly paid for by subscription. There are ads but i don't have your problem.
oliver
oliver
3952 posts
3952 posts
20 Mar 2011 7:57pm
I've been using this thing called MythTV. It detects ads and skips them but you have to be a bit of an egg head to get it to work. There's another egg head on here, Formula Nova?, who will tell you the same thing.
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
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20 Mar 2011 11:14pm
Richiefish said...

Ixx(]..Why would anyone spend 3 hours to watch a 90 minute movie when you can rent the dvd for two bucks ? How can they justify having more ad time than program time ??? Do they really expect people keep watching ad after ad after ad???


stupid people watch television

stupider people subscribe to television

the stupidiest people watch a movie on tv they have seen before, which now goes for three hours containing 90 miutes of advertising.

don't watch it and hopefully it will go away
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
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20 Mar 2011 11:27pm
theDoctor said...

Richiefish said...

Ixx(]..Why would anyone spend 3 hours to watch a 90 minute movie when you can rent the dvd for two bucks ? How can they justify having more ad time than program time ??? Do they really expect people keep watching ad after ad after ad???


stupid people watch television

stupider people subscribe to television

the stupidiest people watch a movie on tv they have seen before, which now goes for three hours containing 90 miutes of advertising.

don't watch it and hopefully it will go away





stupid people call people stupid.
theDoctor
theDoctor
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20 Mar 2011 11:30pm


stupid people recognise stupid people as stupid

(who watch television)
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
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20 Mar 2011 11:32pm
theDoctor said...



stupid people recognise stupid people as stupid

(who watch television)





i rest my case.
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
21 Mar 2011 12:10am

stupid people rest their case(s)
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
NSW, 2568 posts
21 Mar 2011 12:20am
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
NSW, 2568 posts
21 Mar 2011 12:21am
you kinda put yourself in there doc im afraid
NasiGoreng
NasiGoreng
VIC
260 posts
VIC, 260 posts
21 Mar 2011 1:58pm
i only watch docco's, english comedies, and the occasional good film.

all raped from the interweb

I NEVER WATCH AUSTRALIAN TV

current affairs are maintained from seabreeze chat room topics and toilet wall scribblings.
Carantoc
Carantoc
WA
7269 posts
WA, 7269 posts
21 Mar 2011 11:25am
^^^

Yeah, right on.

I only ever watch those marvellous nature documentries by Richard Attenborough
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
21 Mar 2011 1:49pm
I get most of my video jollies from iView on the ABC website

The Wire is my current favourite. The series is set in "Bodymore, Mudderland".

The ABC website seems so much easier to navigate than the commercial stations or even SBS.
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
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21 Mar 2011 12:46pm
I just record and fast forward the crap. Thank you TIVO!
Gunna1
Gunna1
154 posts
154 posts
21 Mar 2011 1:15pm
If I had a business and was thinking how to spend my advertising budget, it wouldn't be TV. I hope most viewers are channel hoppers like me. As soon as an advert comes on the channel I am watching I jump to another and with the extra few channels you can normally jag a couple of minutes of viewing, evern though we all know the TV stations do their best to line up the ads. I also treat it as a bit of a challenge to see how close I can judge the end of the commercial and am getting pretty good at it, (I know, you are all thinking, get a life). I don't watch a lot of telly, however the small amount I do watch is selective and I don't like it ruined by loud, mindless, dumb adverts. So all you companies wasting big bucks on TV ads, try the newspapers.
Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
2865 posts
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21 Mar 2011 3:46pm
TV Networks are a business, they put on programs to space the commercials out.
The revenue bases for networks have diminished of recent years with multi channeling, and the Internet, clients only have so much money to spend and they are spreading it a little thinner these days across all media.

(The TV industry isn't that bad its given me an income for more than 35 years....my father still thinks I need to get a "real job")

PS. it actually takes a lot of skill to make those "loud, mindless, dumb adverts". That you all remember
Rad Lad
Rad Lad
226 posts
226 posts
21 Mar 2011 1:22pm
Thats why they invented TIVO. Once you go TIVO you will never go back, best thing ever.

Stupid is as stupid does - Forrest Gump
Craig66
Craig66
NSW
2466 posts
NSW, 2466 posts
21 Mar 2011 5:30pm
I know a guy that takes 1 hour 30 to watch 60 minutes on Sunday nights........

Now thats slow (and old)
surf4fun
surf4fun
WA
1313 posts
WA, 1313 posts
22 Mar 2011 3:21pm
Gizmo said...


The revenue bases for networks have diminished of recent years with multi channeling, and the Internet, clients only have so much money to spend and they are spreading it a little thinner these days across all media.



Completely untrue. With the advent of multi channeling it is now attracting new business' that previously never looked at TV because TV wasn't providing a defined enough market for them. Look at ONE HD, sporting companies can now advertise 24 hours a day rather than previously only getting a couple of hours on the weekend.

As far as stations lining their commercial breaks up, that would be considered collusion and break a couple of rules.

There is no more adverts on TV now than 10 years ago. Every commericla station is required to have 13 minutes of advertising per hour. During elections this can go up to 14 mins an hour. During sport it is a different story, cricket only has 8 minutes.

The fact remains that TV reaches more people than pretty much every other medium. Newspaper circulation is dwindling across the world, as by the time the news is collected, printed and distibuted its old news.
Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
2865 posts
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22 Mar 2011 6:25pm
With multi channeling the cost of many on air spots have reduced... its a supply and demand situation [now a lot more spots to fill therefore = lower price at some times of the day / night ..very general statement though].
You are right, now many business can more directly focus their advertising making it cost effective. Same as the new digital radio stations.
Advertising time doesn't include "station promotions"
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
22 Mar 2011 7:32pm

I did watch a lot of tele once.... now though I waste my time reading some of this stuff.
At least I get to improve my typing skills [ and my speeling ]
hills
hills
SA
1622 posts
SA, 1622 posts
22 Mar 2011 7:09pm
TiVo is awesome!
fatwa
fatwa
TAS
107 posts
TAS, 107 posts
22 Mar 2011 7:47pm
hills said...

TiVo is awesome!


oh Yeah!
life is better with TiVo!
puffy
puffy
89 posts
89 posts
22 Mar 2011 7:26pm
Your stupid, i could not be bothered with ya's.Home and away's on.
kyteryder
kyteryder
NSW
692 posts
NSW, 692 posts
22 Mar 2011 10:39pm
+1 tivo
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
23 Mar 2011 10:04am
surf4fun said...

Gizmo said...


The revenue bases for networks have diminished of recent years with multi channeling, and the Internet, clients only have so much money to spend and they are spreading it a little thinner these days across all media.



Completely untrue. With the advent of multi channeling it is now attracting new business' that previously never looked at TV because TV wasn't providing a defined enough market for them. Look at ONE HD, sporting companies can now advertise 24 hours a day rather than previously only getting a couple of hours on the weekend.

As far as stations lining their commercial breaks up, that would be considered collusion and break a couple of rules.

There is no more adverts on TV now than 10 years ago. Every commericla station is required to have 13 minutes of advertising per hour. During elections this can go up to 14 mins an hour. During sport it is a different story, cricket only has 8 minutes.

The fact remains that TV reaches more people than pretty much every other medium. Newspaper circulation is dwindling across the world, as by the time the news is collected, printed and distibuted its old news.



14 minutes an hour ??? you gotta be kidding...In the seventies maybe.
GPA
GPA
WA
2529 posts
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WA, 2529 posts
23 Mar 2011 8:41am
^^^
Perhaps the stations are using 'averages' - where daytime TV gets 8 or 9 min of adverts/hr - whereas peak viewing tim (6pm-11pm) gets 22min ads/hr!!! (well that's what it seems like).

That's why I like the interwebs and channel bt...
longwinded
longwinded
WA
347 posts
WA, 347 posts
23 Mar 2011 9:47am
What get's me is the staggering of shows. Back when we had 4 channels, the programs finished on the hour or half way through it. Now I keep missing the start of my doco's cause the other half wants to watch the last 4 minutes of her sit-com.
Gunna1
Gunna1
154 posts
154 posts
23 Mar 2011 10:24am
longwinded said...

What get's me is the staggering of shows. Back when we had 4 channels, the programs finished on the hour or half way through it. Now I keep missing the start of my doco's cause the other half wants to watch the last 4 minutes of her sit-com.


let's all find something more fulfilling to do, after the news most nights I find another activity. if no-one is watching the stations might get the message. Reminds me of a quote from Groucho Marx who said " I find television very educational, when someone turns it on, I go to the next room and read a book"

surf4fun
surf4fun
WA
1313 posts
WA, 1313 posts
23 Mar 2011 10:46am
Gizmo said...

With multi channeling the cost of many on air spots have reduced... its a supply and demand situation [now a lot more spots to fill therefore = lower price at some times of the day / night ..very general statement though].
You are right, now many business can more directly focus their advertising making it cost effective. Same as the new digital radio stations.
Advertising time doesn't include "station promotions"


Station promotions are included in air time component and it is a fine line networks balance of station promos vs. paid airtime. Sometimes they will sacrifice station promos to get paid air time away depending on the demand.

I don't want to seem negative and constantly disagreeing with you Gizmo, but no spots on air have reduced in price. All the main channels have increased in cost as well as dramtaic increases in the multi channels from when they first started due to more people now watching TV.

There is definitley no averaging going on for mins/hour. As the governmnet has such a vested interest in free to air TV it is extremely regulated and the consequences of breaking the rules are not worth it.
Gizmo
Gizmo
SA
2865 posts
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23 Mar 2011 1:52pm
surf4fun, if what you are saying you are obviously a little closer to the $ end of the TV networks than I am.
I'm involved in the technicial / production and Outside Broadcasts of TV & Radio industry.


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