Talking on a mobile, driving & cops.

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ka43
ka43
NSW
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NSW, 3101 posts
28 Jan 2012 8:43pm
This afternoon I was coming back from a SUP, in a quiet side street and all of a sudden my mobile rings. Looked at the screen and saw it was my daughter. I just picked up it up out of instinct and then I saw the flashing lights and the quick siren blurt. I actually pulled over to let him past then realised it was me he was after.
Just stopped, got my license out and waited
Straight off the bat, he says "do you know why Ive stopped you?"
I went "Yep, the phone rang and I grabbed it out of instinct. Sorry"
He didnt say anything, just took my license and walked back to the car.
2 minutes later hes back. Looks at me and says, "You know if you are on thhe phone, you are gonna get cleaned up or clean someone else up. Wake up to yourself"
Gave me my license back and walked off.
I thanked him, thought to myself "hes right, what a dickhead I am"
The phone kept ringing but I waited until I got home to answer.
No fine, no demerits but it worked!!!
weiry
weiry
QLD
5396 posts
QLD, 5396 posts
28 Jan 2012 7:46pm
Lucky Ka
wodgina6722
wodgina6722
229 posts
229 posts
28 Jan 2012 7:07pm
I always drive and talk on the phone. People eat haburgers and smoke behind the wheel whats the difference?
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
28 Jan 2012 10:11pm
Thanks for sharing. Clearly this is a case where the copper did the right thing by giving a warning. A warning makes you both grateful and remorseful. A fine would makes you resentful.



GPA
GPA
WA
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WA, 2529 posts
28 Jan 2012 7:20pm
Mobydisc said...

Thanks for sharing. Clearly this is a case where the copper did the right thing by giving a warning. A warning makes you both grateful and remorseful. A fine would makes you resentful.





Agreed 100% - particularly if you own up and don't start to back-chat or mouth off.
rod_bunny
rod_bunny
WA
1089 posts
WA, 1089 posts
28 Jan 2012 7:56pm
Mobydisc said...

Thanks for sharing. Clearly this is a case where the copper did the right thing by giving a warning. A warning makes you both grateful and remorseful. A fine would makes you resentful.



Something the multinovas cant do...
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
WA, 2371 posts
30 Jan 2012 9:11am
This is my "PET HATE" in WA....manly because I have been nearly cleaned up
(and that's no exaggeration) about 6 times in the last 3 months.....

For some reason people on the phone want to come into my lane while I am still there and I get such a shock when I see a car coming in on me I end up getting really anger and I am not an angry person...

We don't do most things in life because they are illegal
So why do people have to talk on the phone when driving
Are they all above the law....would they go out and kill someone
because thats illegal too.

Hmmmm...lets see driving while on the phone can = death....

Not happy Jan!
Sorry for my rant....

doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
30 Jan 2012 9:19am
GypsyDrifter said...

This is my "PET HATE" in WA....manly because I have been nearly cleaned up
(and that's no exaggeration) about 6 times in the last 3 months.....

For some reason people on the phone want to come into my lane while I am still there and I get such a shock when I see a car coming in on me I end up getting really anger and I am not an angry person...

We don't do most things in life because they are illegal
So why do people have to talk on the phone when driving
Are they all above the law....would they go out and kill someone
because thats illegal too.

Hmmmm...lets see driving while on the phone can = death....

Not happy Jan!
Sorry for my rant....




Dont be sorry for that GD.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
30 Jan 2012 9:37am
GypsyDrifter said...

This is my "PET HATE" in WA....manly because I have been nearly cleaned up
(and that's no exaggeration) about 6 times in the last 3 months.....

For some reason people on the phone want to come into my lane while I am still there and I get such a shock when I see a car coming in on me I end up getting really anger and I am not an angry person...

We don't do most things in life because they are illegal
So why do people have to talk on the phone when driving
Are they all above the law....would they go out and kill someone
because thats illegal too.

Hmmmm...lets see driving while on the phone can = death....

Not happy Jan!
Sorry for my rant....




I've had the same except I ride a bike. It's fully scary.


GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
WA, 2371 posts
30 Jan 2012 9:51am
doggie said...



Dont be sorry for that GD.


Well doggie and pr
I feel like I should suck it up and deal with it...
I have tried but I can't...and I don't quiet understand the
mentality of drivers on the phone.
Is their phone call more important thank my life...
Because that's what it feels like for me...

But you see my life is not in or on my phone. I actually never have mine turned on and it is at the bottom of my bag ....for just incase I need it...

Call me old fashioned....

and besides...a hand free set these days is very cheap
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
30 Jan 2012 9:56am
GypsyDrifter said...

doggie said...



Dont be sorry for that GD.


Well doggie and pr
I feel like I should suck it up and deal with it...
I have tried but I can't...and I don't quiet understand the
mentality of drivers on the phone.
Is their phone call more important thank my life...
Because that's what it feels like for me...

But you see my life is not in or on my phone. I actually never have mine turned on and it is at the bottom of my bag ....for just incase I need it...

Call me old fashioned....

and besides...a hand free set these days is very cheap


I put mine on silent when driving, then I dont care who rings.
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
30 Jan 2012 10:25am
I use the aforementioned (bluetooth) hands free. I don't mind answering whoever calls, but I don't make outgoing calls whilst driving. Bear in mind that 95%(ish) of my driving is on country roads, so traffic is seldom a problem.
wormy
wormy
QLD
679 posts
QLD, 679 posts
30 Jan 2012 1:29pm
Couple of weeks ago I thought I was lucky not to get booked coming towards the mobile radar car doing about 67kms in a 60 zone.

Lucky the copper was to busy with his mobile to his ear to notice me
Wineman
Wineman
NSW
1412 posts
NSW, 1412 posts
30 Jan 2012 4:11pm
How's the knee coming on Ka?

We tend to let phones & things dominate our life.

clarkee
clarkee
WA
220 posts
WA, 220 posts
30 Jan 2012 1:52pm
Yep i got done on sunday,3 points and $250 .lesson learnt
fatwa
fatwa
TAS
107 posts
TAS, 107 posts
30 Jan 2012 8:23pm
I get confused.
How is talking on the phone any different to talking to a passenger, with a durrie or pie in one hand, and the steering wheel in the other?
Texting i do understand- that's just dumb, it takes your eye off the road.
Interestingly, it's not against the law to use a cb radio while driving. How is that different?
I wonder if it has anything to do with (dare i say it) revenue and the burden of proof?

GPA
GPA
WA
2529 posts
GPA GPA
WA, 2529 posts
30 Jan 2012 5:45pm
Some of these handsfree kits are just as bad as using the phone normally... I have the VE Series II Commodore which has an integrated Bluetooth handsfree touch screen set-up in the dash... Looks nice, but to make a call I still need to take my eyes off the road to either pick a number from contacts, or else key in the number from the touch screen number pad.

I consider it too dangerous to use in traffic, so I choose who I am going to ring on the way home and then key that number in whist still stationary in the car park, and then hit the green talk button when on the FWY.

FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
WA, 15100 posts
30 Jan 2012 5:55pm
fatwa said...

I get confused.
How is talking on the phone any different to talking to a passenger, with a durrie or pie in one hand, and the steering wheel in the other?
Texting i do understand- that's just dumb, it takes your eye off the road.
Interestingly, it's not against the law to use a cb radio while driving. How is that different?
I wonder if it has anything to do with (dare i say it) revenue and the burden of proof?




I have noticed some people, when talking on the phone, lose focus on other things and just concentrate on the phone call. Others seem to be able to speak, listen, and still notice things around them. I have seen this happen in an office, let alone the people I have seen that drive like this.

Unfortunately, the one's that can't notice anything around them while on the phone also drive.

I think the phone call engages the brain a bit more than smoking or eating a pie.


Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23649 posts
WA, 23649 posts
30 Jan 2012 6:11pm
Wineman said...




Good message, but I call faked IMHO

There is like 5m+ of rail behind the car - I reckon up to about 10m - and there would be an upright support behind the car, yet the front end damage suggests the first thing the bumper hit was the upright it is against now. The first upright would have stopped it, or done a heap more damage.
seanhogan
seanhogan
QLD
3424 posts
QLD, 3424 posts
30 Jan 2012 8:14pm
After having been flashed 5km over the limit and being kindly fined 150$ I was quite happy to be able to photograph a cop (gendarme here) driving and using his personal mobile phone...

Sent a copy to the local paper, printed first page....how good........[}:)][}:)]
FlickySpinny
FlickySpinny
WA
657 posts
WA, 657 posts
30 Jan 2012 7:41pm
fatwa said...

I get confused.
How is talking on the phone any different to talking to a passenger, with a durrie or pie in one hand, and the steering wheel in the other?


A valid question, and there is an answer...

This is according to a scientific study, which I can't find the details of - I'm not making this up.

When talking to a passenger in the car, that passenger is involved in the drive. They can tell when you're concentrating on a junction, looking for directions, changing lanes, etc, and generally (please note, generally) the conversation is determined by the driving.

On a phone, the other party has no idea of the road and hence is still talking when you're trying to perform a maneuver that requires your full concentration.
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
30 Jan 2012 9:58pm
if one talks to their hamburger or cigarette, then doing those things are probably as bad as talking on the phone while driving
gazza
gazza
WA
647 posts
WA, 647 posts
30 Jan 2012 8:56pm
Mark _australia said...

Good message, but I call faked IMHO

There is like 5m+ of rail behind the car - I reckon up to about 10m - and there would be an upright support behind the car, yet the front end damage suggests the first thing the bumper hit was the upright it is against now. The first upright would have stopped it, or done a heap more damage.


plus how high is that freaking barrier Fake for sure!!!
firiebob
firiebob
WA
3182 posts
WA, 3182 posts
30 Jan 2012 9:57pm
gazza said...

Mark _australia said...

Good message, but I call faked IMHO

There is like 5m+ of rail behind the car - I reckon up to about 10m - and there would be an upright support behind the car, yet the front end damage suggests the first thing the bumper hit was the upright it is against now. The first upright would have stopped it, or done a heap more damage.


plus how high is that freaking barrier Fake for sure!!!


I was thinking the same Gaz, then I thought the road looked higher than the dirt so maybe it's right, anyway I'd vote setup.
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
30 Jan 2012 11:15pm
note the OTHER dent in the front bumper
Id say the rail is designed to flex for side impacts but the bolts are designed to shear on an end impact.like maybe big holes for bolts, and the rail, once through the car has ridden upward to follow the height of the bottom of the windscreen
Kn lucky too ,I dont see any red splats of brain drips
GPA
GPA
WA
2529 posts
GPA GPA
WA, 2529 posts
30 Jan 2012 11:27pm
You don't think that that OTHER dent was where the car took out the first upright when it still had maximum speed? That would explain it being so far into the rail...
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
31 Jan 2012 9:49am
^^^ I reckon it's real - I viewed a few 'actual' images of accidents involving safety rails on a slideshow that are very similar during RCR (road crash rescue) training - but with "red splats". The rail is intended to take most of the impact, but in many cases, the rivets shear and the rail becomes a spear.

The fact that images like this exist is the reason that many 'metal' barriers have been replaced with the new cable barriers. Unfortunately, the cable barriers can do much more damage, especially to rescue crews due to the extreme tension they can be under when stabilising the vehicle.

As for driving+talking on mobile...please don't do it, for your own & others' safety.
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
3271 posts
WA, 3271 posts
31 Jan 2012 11:59am
Mark _australia said...

Wineman said...




Good message, but I call faked IMHO

There is like 5m+ of rail behind the car - I reckon up to about 10m - and there would be an upright support behind the car, yet the front end damage suggests the first thing the bumper hit was the upright it is against now. The first upright would have stopped it, or done a heap more damage.


I'll call it as a real photo, those barriers are near useless for end-on collisions, the uprights have no substantive value apart from holding the rail up, so the rail can do all the work. If you start looking at the old armco barriers they are starting to reinforce the ends with collapsible barriers or heavy reinforced steel plates to prevent this type of barrier intrusion into vehicles. There was a really bad crash down near Bunbury about 6-7 years ago where an out of control car clipped the end of a similar bridge barrier and it ripped the back half of the car clean off, and the poor girl sitting in the back

Armco barriers are now losing favour to the wire rope barriers, but that's also another story. I wouldn't want to hit the wire rope ones on a bike...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313637/Miracle-escape-sleeping-driver-impaled-car-crash-barrier.html

But back to the original topic, fo a wee road safety experiment; next time you see someone talking on their phone and driving, don't race past them, sit off and watch how bad their driving is, poor speed control, weaving within the lane, sloppy lane changes, poor reflexes to changing traffic lights etc. Sure there are plenty that can drive whilst eating/talking/smoking/on the phone (or all of the above) but most can't, I have no idea why talking on a phone is different to talking to a passenger but there seems to be a difference. Anyone seen any reasearch on it?
Dazza65
Dazza65
QLD
389 posts
QLD, 389 posts
31 Jan 2012 2:28pm
How about this, I was in the CBD in Brisbane with bumper to bumper traffic, hadnt moved for 5 minutes and my wife called my mobile so I answered to let her know I was going to be late due to traffic. I wouldnt have answered it otherwise. A cop walking down the street knocked on my window and booked me $200. My argument was that I wasnt moving and hadnt done so for ages. Cop wouldnt have a bar of it. Felt like saying go and book the idiots on the motorway I see every day swerving all over the place while on their mobiles......aargh!
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
31 Jan 2012 12:30pm
Dazza65 said...

How about this, I was in the CBD in Brisbane with bumper to bumper traffic, hadnt moved for 5 minutes and my wife called my mobile so I answered to let her know I was going to be late due to traffic. I wouldnt have answered it otherwise. A cop walking down the street knocked on my window and booked me $200. My argument was that I wasnt moving and hadnt done so for ages. Cop wouldnt have a bar of it. Felt like saying go and book the idiots on the motorway I see every day swerving all over the place while on their mobiles......aargh!


I would have taken that to court, I recon you would have won that one.
byf
byf
WA
517 posts
byf byf
WA, 517 posts
31 Jan 2012 2:52pm
I know the feeling Dazza. Probably five or six years ago there was a pretty bad smash on a friday arvo dixon and ennis ave (for the locals).Cops had all directions blocked. Noone moving. Hadnt for a good half hour. My best mate was heading to my place that night for a few coldies then go the early the next morn. So i ring him and say go old mandurah road as this way is rooted. Yep all good he says and i hang up. Ten or so later when the traffic starts moving one of the cop cars comes flying up behind me. I pull over to get out of his way thinking something else is goin on but guess what? Yep... "i saw you on the phone mate" he says. "your kiddin me surely?" i say. No chance. Yep a nice fine and a few points. My tongue was bleeding from biting it so hard. But we live and learn i guess.
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