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Smart roads.

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Created by DavidJohn > 9 months ago, 14 May 2014
DavidJohn
VIC, 17570 posts
14 May 2014 12:49PM
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Seems like a good idea.

www.iflscience.com/technology/solar-roads-could-power-entire-country/

Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
14 May 2014 12:45PM
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Great idea..... But how long would it take the council workers to fix the roads if they were used?
It takes months to just fix a pothole now.......

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
14 May 2014 11:15PM
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I don't get it. How is this any different than putting solar cells on a roof, or anywhere else?

Can't see the up-side, but plenty of down-side. Will wear out from traffic, will be in the shadow of traffic, need to be made strong enough to carry traffic - but what is the point?

I'd hate to imagine the cost compared to dedicated rooftop solar or PV farm.

What am I missing here?

Unhook3d
WA, 467 posts
14 May 2014 10:02PM
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Like harrow said.
Why would anyone design solar panels for the ground? Where they will be covered in shadows from trees, traffic, dirt.
They should've invested their time and energy designing these for carpark rooftops.

Darkspi
SA, 171 posts
14 May 2014 11:52PM
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and whats the difference of cost to asphalt given most places wont be diggin up their billion$ highways to replace it any time soon mite be doable for a home driveway

Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
15 May 2014 5:05AM
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I agree with Harrow...BUT....we should give these nice people the money to research it.

sn
WA, 2775 posts
15 May 2014 11:43AM
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Years ago, there was a power generating roadway being spruiked in the USA,
Instead of solar, it was hydraulic.

Sections of road were constructed out of special panels, and hooked up to hydraulic rams which were underneath.
As vehicles drove over the road, the panel flexed slightly, the rams were compressed which forced fluid through a hydraulic pump - hooked up to a generator/turbine thingo.

IIRC, there was mention of it being "easily" adapted for use as bridge decking, on bridges that use steel mesh as roadway - so every vehicle driving over the bridge triggered a continual series of hydraulic pulses.


stephen

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
15 May 2014 12:05PM
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Clearly some people have too much time and money. What a stupid idea that will never happen. Perhaps some big company with a lot of money could install this in front of their headquarters for all to see, beyond that it's absurdly too expensive to implement.

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
15 May 2014 12:08PM
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sn said...
Years ago, there was a power generating roadway being spruiked in the USA,
Instead of solar, it was hydraulic.

Sections of road were constructed out of special panels, and hooked up to hydraulic rams which were underneath.
As vehicles drove over the road, the panel flexed slightly, the rams were compressed which forced fluid through a hydraulic pump - hooked up to a generator/turbine thingo.

IIRC, there was mention of it being "easily" adapted for use as bridge decking, on bridges that use steel mesh as roadway - so every vehicle driving over the bridge triggered a continual series of hydraulic pulses.


stephen


someone was in fantasy land for that one, way to much engineering under the road and would increase the fuel consumed by the vehicles as they are effectively driving up a tiny but continuous incline to get up and 'over' the pump.

Cambodge
VIC, 851 posts
15 May 2014 3:35PM
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Chris6791 said...
sn said...
Years ago, there was a power generating roadway being spruiked in the USA,
Instead of solar, it was hydraulic.

Sections of road were constructed out of special panels, and hooked up to hydraulic rams which were underneath.
As vehicles drove over the road, the panel flexed slightly, the rams were compressed which forced fluid through a hydraulic pump - hooked up to a generator/turbine thingo.

IIRC, there was mention of it being "easily" adapted for use as bridge decking, on bridges that use steel mesh as roadway - so every vehicle driving over the bridge triggered a continual series of hydraulic pulses.


stephen


someone was in fantasy land for that one, way to much engineering under the road and would increase the fuel consumed by the vehicles as they are effectively driving up a tiny but continuous incline to get up and 'over' the pump.


Indeed! Why not simplify it even further, do away with the vehicle part of the idea and just fix thousands of four-cyclinder internal combustion engines to the road surface to pump the rams, to force the fluid, to rotate the turbine, to generate electricity. Genius!!

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
15 May 2014 8:45PM
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can we change the thread name to dumb ideas

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
16 May 2014 4:55AM
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I'll be the first to sue when I slip and fall on the slippery glass.
There is intelligence and there is common sense, clearly this is an example

Paradox
QLD, 1326 posts
16 May 2014 10:02AM
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I reckon you guys are a bit short sighted and negative. Sure paving every road is unlikely to be a go, and even as a running surface it is iffy...but it is ideas like this that lead to real innovation.

Solar panel tech is advancing pretty quickly and cost are dropping. If some of the implementation challenges are solved and costs are low enough I can see some possibilities. A strip of it in the shoulder/breakdown lane could power entire freeway lighting systems.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
16 May 2014 10:18AM
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^^^ But why not use a much simpler method of infusing a (already existing) solar paint into a road surfacing system? It looks very much over-engineered to me.

[edit] Although good on them for having a go.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17570 posts
25 May 2014 11:33AM
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I'm liking it more and more..

NotWal
QLD, 7436 posts
3 Jun 2014 4:40AM
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I can't see it working.



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