Second Republic - NWO - Sovereignty

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FlySurfer
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12 Apr 2010 7:55pm






He talks about a global effort to return sovereignty; oxymoron?
japie
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13 Apr 2010 6:51am
When I read or watch this sort of material it becomes obvious why there is a push toward censoring the internet!
cisco
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13 Apr 2010 12:23pm
FlySurfer said...
He talks about a global effort to return sovereignty; oxymoron?


Oxymoron? No I don't think so.

He is talking about FREEDOM. What is FREEDOM?? It is an IDEA, a concept a thought and therefore exactly as he says, FREEDOM starts or comes from the mind.

Concise Oxford Dictionary:-
freedom, noun, Personal liberty, non-slavery; civil liberty, independence; liberty of action, right to do; power of self determination, independence of fate or necessity; boldness of conception;..........................

the four freedoms, freedom of speech and religion, freedom from fear and want.

Are these what our so called "Democratic Institutions" promote above all else?? Not in my opinion. Saying Merry Christmas today is a no-no because it may offend someone's religion.

FREEDOM would then seem to be a state of being where the will of another is not imposed or forced upon one's self.

FIGHTING or WAR is when two or more parties attempt to impose or enforce their will upon each other.

So if you are looking for an oxymoron, how about "FIGHTING for FREEDOM"
Trant
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13 Apr 2010 12:25pm
Out of interest, "New World Order" indicates that an "Old World Order" (OWO) used to exist. When was it replaced and when will the current NWO simply become a "Current World Order" (CWO)?

If we do rise up and stop the NWO, what have we replaced it with?
A NNWO (New New World Order)
A NANWO (Not A New World Order)
A NWD (New World Disorder)

Or will the New New World Order simply become the NWO and the old NWO/CWO becomes the OWO, and the old OWO becomes the DPWO (Distant Past World Order)

I also notice that the NWO/CWO is called the "New World Order Power Elite" (NWOPE), so would the NNWO/NANWO/NWD be better called the "New World Order Powerless Common" (NWOPC)?

cisco
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13 Apr 2010 12:27pm
japie said...

When I read or watch this sort of material it becomes obvious why there is a push toward censoring the internet!


Yes it IS obvious why those that would deny FREEDOM would push for censorship of the internet.

Does your comment also mean that you condone it??

cisco
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13 Apr 2010 12:35pm
Trant said...

If we do rise up and stop the NWO, what have we replaced it with?
A NNWO (New New World Order)
A NANWO (Not A New World Order)
A NWD (New World Disorder)



None of the above.

We should have BOW-WOW. (B_gg_r Ordered World, we should have Wandom Ordered World).

theDoctor
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13 Apr 2010 12:43pm

wanna talk about true sovereignty...?

get your head 'round this...

THE STRAWMAN ILLUSION by thomas anderson

japie
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13 Apr 2010 10:13pm
Hey Cisco,

Condone censorship? Definitely not, under any circumstances.

I was thinking about this a fair bit. One of the "excuses" the pro censorship mob use is terrorists and pedophiles. I have no love for either but I reckon that the internet has made it possible to snag more pedophiles and terrorists than would have been possible were "certain" sites banned.

I reckon that the NWO are **** scared that the internet will be used as a tool to expose and ultimately reverse control.

Take Wikileaks for example. It would be a tragedy if it were knocked on the head.
cisco
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14 Apr 2010 12:25am
Glad to hear it Japie,
Just wasn't sure what your sentiment was.

These government people are very adept at pulling various "Rabbits out of the Hat", such as "terrorism, pedophelia, drug trade, pornography, etc, etc, etc" as excuses to introduce laws "to protect us" from ourselves and other imagined threats.

A certain senator was given undeserved air time on one of the tools of the "MK Ultra, Mind Control Group", The 7PM Project, who is trying to CON the electorate, whose every first name he assumes is ROY, into believing there is an urgent need to filter internet access at the ISP level in the name of antipedophelia.

Going for the financial throat of the ISPs is a very cunning way of going about it. Comply or we pull your permit is beaurocratic blackmail.

Hopefully sufficient thinking consumers of ISP services have enough financial clout to counteract the government's influence.

Google told China to go jump. It should be easy for them to tell our bunch of yokels to do the same.
FlySurfer
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14 Apr 2010 5:26pm
The Unabomber (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Kaczynski) believed that technological advancement and computer networks posed the greatest risk to mankind ever.

He was involved with the government program MK-Ultra (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA) at Harvard among others.
He started sending letters out to journalists warning of the dangers, nobody listened so he started mail bombing, until his manifesto was published.

I believe things like facebook's data is what he was warning us about and I believe that this dataset has the power to undermine independent thought.

So the internet has the ability to free us and enslave us.
j murray
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14 Apr 2010 8:13pm

Oh Hell !!!!! I thought NWO meant North West Ocean, sorrry bout that.
FlySurfer
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18 Apr 2010 1:00pm
from the guys who brought you loose change

GalahOnTheBay
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19 Apr 2010 7:42pm
We need a tinfoil hat subforum
doggie
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GalahOnTheBay said...

We need a tinfoil hat subforum


+1
Richiefish
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21 Apr 2010 5:41pm
" Free is when you dont have to pay for nothing or do nothing we want to be free, free as the wind." Quote. Frank Zappa......(from the song "teenage wind")
FormulaNova
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GalahOnTheBay said...

We need a tinfoil hat subforum


We do, but the powers that be are hiding it from us. I can see it if I look out of the corner of my eye and move my head really fast.

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