Why would the DEC be conducting burn offs anywhere near this time of year? I completely understand the need to burn off but does it have to be done at such a high risk time? Hoping they can get this blaze under control before more homes are lost and here's hoping nobody loses their life due to negligence.
Weather forecast for early tomorrow isn't looking good.

I'd say those that have lost there houses already will be a tad on the annoyed side of things,
Someones gonna need mighty deep pockets,

Because the burning that should have happened a month ago was restricted due to CHOGM. The Govt did not want the tiniest little bit of haze around the city.

Image is more important than peoples lives.

Same thing happened around Denmark a year or two back, and believe it or not, again today!

www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-24/denmark-fire-sparks-concern/3691910?section=wa

Mark _australia said...

Because the burning that should have happened a month ago was restricted due to CHOGM. The Govt did not want the tiniest little bit of haze around the city.

Image is more important than peoples lives.

Not quite Mark...

I just heard on ABC an interview held in the Margs area with reporters and a senior FESA gent who said that particular prescribed burn was initiated in early September and has been "fed" several times since to keep it going in the required area. I think he said the last "feed" was a few days ago????

Obviously it hasn't gone to plan but I'm not sure you can link CHOGM and the DEC in this case especially when it isn't the only burn that's been going on in the last few months.

It's quite concerning that when a prescribed burn goes wrong the DEC haven't done enough to protect peoples properties AND when a fire of unknown origin destroys peoples properties in the country the DEC haven't done enough to protect peoples properties because they didn't do enough prescribed burning

The term rock and a hard place comes to mind.

But I'm sure everyone agrees that it is a sad day for all the people involved and that we hope that no casualties occur.

Best wishes to everyone down there........

My brother lost his house. We were lucky it didn't hit our place. Not happy. It could have been fatal.

Jesus that's bad shiz greenie - real shame & my best wishes to your lot eh?

The council should implement fire exclusion zones. Unfortunately The department of conservation dosent honor people clearing native vegetation and felling trees.recomended by FESA (fire and emergency services The council must implement 20 metre+ exclusion zones around suburban dwellings in high risk fire areas As stated by fesa Fire A emergency prevention. The DEC are incompetent and negligent in protecting people and there properties. They place people lives in risk to save a few trees. Things will change . Thought they would of after the Victorian fires.

All this blame laid directly at FESA/DEC and the prescribed burn . I think we also need to look at the properties and did the land owners upkeep their properties to a safe standard .

Just look at the roleystone fires ,hardly anyone in the hills clears their properties of tinder . I know we never did when i lived in the hills .

I am not trying to blame land owners specifically but i think there needs to be better education of land owners and not just putting the blame on FESA but of course i am going to get red thumbed for my thoughts as it's the seabreeze way

Buster you say DEC/FESA etc should be more concerned with saving properties rather than a few trees . Why exactly do you think they have been doing the burns for the last few months ?

Yer thats right to save a few trees


It was to try and remove alot of dry undergrowth to stop this **** . Yes their timing may have not been perfect but they are doing stuff that should have been done by landowners themselves .

grass and leaves and stuff like that is considered native vegetation ?

like i said not trying to pass the blame away from DEC/fesa etc , just saying that homeowners need to be held accountable as well . I highly doubt all these properties were well maintained .

Woodo said...

dusta said...
I highly doubt all these properties were well maintained .

And how did you come to this conclussion? Just an assumption?

no from our family having a property just off caves road very close to prevally i see alot of properties with plenty of **** that would ignite . So no assumption here mate .


Like i said the blame cannot be solely put on the dec , landowners have to be accountable for some of the blame .

Woodo said...

Fair enough then.
All i have to say is there would be no fire if the DEC didn't light one.

hmm considering the conditions i would have to disagree with you there . There was always the possibility considering we have had a fairly dry winter that something could have ignited a fire this week . Yes DEC choose a retarded day to do stuff not just in margs mind you as the fire in munster was a "controlled" burn .

dusta said...

Woodo said...

Fair enough then.
All i have to say is there would be no fire if the DEC didn't light one.

Yes DEC choose a retarded day to do stuff not just in margs mind you as the fire in munster was a "controlled" burn .

And there we have it.

For this partucular fire DEC are to blame, but if it wasn't lit at the hand of DEC it would eventually have been someone with an angle grinder, cigarette butt or at the hands of an arsonist.

No-one wants the bush around their neighbourhood charred from a controlled burn, but so many don't accept the risk that comes with a block in the bush that doesn't have any fire mitigation measures and a high fuel load. So many are totally ignorant of their risk, they are under-prepared and under-insured and protest loudly against control burns and their impact on the environment.

Nor do many understand that a fire in conditions like this one (regardless of ignition source) WILL accelerate out of control at a rate exponentially faster that the combines ability of FRS/VFRS/DEC/BFS's abilities to respond.

I feel sorry for those that did everything right in preparing and adequately insuring their home and keeping safe their family and sentimental items but still lost everything, but for those that weren't adequately prepared, they must wear some responsibility and not just blame DEC.

You've got to love the position DEC are in, conduct control burns with the best of intentions and get screwed, don't conduct burns, but a fire happens anyway through arson or what ever, and they still get screwed. It's a lose/lose game and I have no idea why anyone would want to take on the top job at DEC for that reason.

Chris6791 said...

For this partucular fire DEC are to blame, but if it wasn't lit at the hand of DEC it would eventually have been someone with an angle grinder, cigarette butt or at the hands of an arsonist.

No-one wants the bush around their neighbourhood charred from a controlled burn, but so many don't accept the risk that comes with a block in the bush that doesn't have any fire mitigation measures and a high fuel load. So many are totally ignorant of their risk, they are under-prepared and under-insured and protest loudly against control burns and their impact on the environment.

Nor do many understand that a fire in conditions like this one (regardless of ignition source) WILL accelerate out of control at a rate exponentially faster that the combines ability of FRS/VFRS/DEC/BFS's abilities to respond.

I feel sorry for those that did everything right in preparing and adequately insuring their home and keeping safe their family and sentimental items but still lost everything, but for those that weren't adequately prepared, they must wear some responsibility and not just blame DEC.

You've got to love the position DEC are in, conduct control burns with the best of intentions and get screwed, don't conduct burns, but a fire happens anyway through arson or what ever, and they still get screwed. It's a lose/lose game and I have no idea why anyone would want to take on the top job at DEC for that reason.

Agree 100% well said, Very few people now taking responsibilty for their own actions.
Live in the bush, fire is a risk, live in Nth QLD cyclones are a risk, go in the water sharks are a risk , live with it or not. Choices.