Lance n drugs

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Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi
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18 Jan 2013 2:10pm
Watching this interview now - he admits to doping in all tours in first 2 mins. Wonder how he will get out of this now....here comes some jail time! No sympathy from me
Saffer
Saffer
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18 Jan 2013 2:18pm
Don't think there is jail time for drug use.

My question is if he is really sorry, will he donate the $120 Million (current worth) to charity because it was gained through deception and fraud? I doubt it. One thing to say you're sorry, another thing to show it.

Feel sorry for Cheryl Crow being married to this scumbag now.
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
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18 Jan 2013 2:18pm
I'd be pretty surprised if he goes to jail
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
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18 Jan 2013 2:20pm
Saffer said...
Will he donate the $120 Million (current worth) to charity because it was gained through deception and fraud? I doubt it. One thing to say you're sorry, another thing to show it.


Maybe he'll give to the Livestrong Foundation

Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi
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18 Jan 2013 2:27pm
I recall an interview which was done under the legal microscope when he was trying to get money on an insurance scheme.....it was stated that if he was to lie under oath he would go to jail.....now he has admitted it - I would think if he does not got to jail it will be because a deal had been done.
FlySurfer
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18 Jan 2013 2:32pm
Good, more people should take drugs.
Drugs rock.
Drugs are natural.
Drugs allows your brain to augment your physical deficiencies.
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
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18 Jan 2013 2:32pm
Ted the Kiwi said...
I recall an interview which was done under the legal microscope when he was trying to get money on an insurance scheme.....it was stated that if he was to lie under oath he would go to jail.....now he has admitted it - I would think if he does not got to jail it will be because a deal had been done.


It was over 8 years ago, there's some silly law in the US on it.
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi
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18 Jan 2013 2:40pm
Like a statue of limitations or similar? This is a soft interview - should have gone with 60mins....but hang on they did not want to pay $16 mio for the story
evlPanda
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18 Jan 2013 2:42pm
myusernam
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18 Jan 2013 1:59pm
I reckon jail. He had an insurance policy that paid him a six figure sum for each win of the tour de france. The took him to court to try and get out of paying (there was a clause about being found performance enhancing drugs) but because he had not been found out, they had to pay. Not only will he have to pay back (it was a lot of money) but he repeatedly perjured himself in US court (It was clearly stated he was under oath and if he lied was perjury etc) So he is FUBAR.

It was the four corners special. good watch. someone even hinted that his nut cancer may have been contributed to by the massive amounts of male hormones etc he was dosing himself with. almost ounded like he was the best because he did the most drugs - he really did heaps and heaps according to show more than teammates etc. pioneer in the taking and use
Dazzler75
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18 Jan 2013 2:05pm
I thought he was killing it because he only squashed 1 nut and was in half the discomfort of the other riders.
Adoy
Adoy
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18 Jan 2013 3:44pm
If he was getting away with it for so long how many others were doing the same and even riders before him like Greg Lemond
felixdcat
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18 Jan 2013 12:52pm
Baaaaaaaah who cares! It is just cycling a sport that has a strong drug taking philosophy, so what? he is a scumbag only because he has been caught............. you surely don't believe that all the other competitors are clean...... are you that naive!
He will give the money back? That is the joke of the year!
Just stop talking about the biggest no news of the year And what a show all done on Ophra.......... how many mills is he getting for the interview???
Pathetic or maybe it is me been disillusioned?
Sport has nothing to do with been the best and winning medals and glory! Just another business where you make as much money in the short time you have at the top!
Tux
Tux
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18 Jan 2013 4:27pm
How bout he apologies to his massues who he said was lying, when she said she'd seen him doping, beacuse she was afraid the team would out here as whore..undre oath...the jurno's he intimidated and threaten...the team members and other athletes who he's ripped off by cheating and bull****ting...the more I hear about this guy the more I reckon he should be in jail only after apologising to all those people who's lives he has tried to ****
Prawnhead
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18 Jan 2013 4:44pm
It all starts with shaving your legs for no known reason!!
Woodo
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18 Jan 2013 2:17pm
I'd like to see a drug tolerant olympics just to see how much every world record get's smashed by.
doggie
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18 Jan 2013 2:23pm
Woodo said...
I'd like to see a drug tolerant olympics just to see how much every world record get's smashed by.


Imagine how many of them would kark it afterwards tho
CJW
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18 Jan 2013 5:38pm
myusernam said...
*snip

It was the four corners special. good watch. someone even hinted that his nut cancer may have been contributed to by the massive amounts of male hormones etc he was dosing himself with. almost ounded like he was the best because he did the most drugs - he really did heaps and heaps according to show more than teammates etc. pioneer in the taking and use


Err wut? The drug taking culture in cycling existed a long time before Lance, you can't realistically ride for 3 weeks, ~200km a day at the speed back then without taking something, it's just not physically possible; everyone knew it, it was basically 'accepted'. Lance and his team definitely took it to the next level in terms of their scientific approach to it but don't kid yourself that everyone else wasn't doing it and he certainly didn't pioneer it, not even close.

My personal opinion is that the best rider still won the tour in those years, proven by the fact that everyone else that was a challenger at that time has also been busted. An average rider just doesn't become that good by pumping in some EPO and doing a few transfusions, he's still a phenomenal athlete. He also trained specifically for the tour and spent a large portion of the year riding in the alps and Colorado specifically training for it. This differed some what from most of his competitors who rode a lot of the other grand tours/races etc, which he seldom did.

Is he a dickhead, yes, should anyone who knows cycling really be surprised, no. In my opinion the biggest problem with cycling is the UCI, they knew about it for years and did nothing, even before Lance's reign. They are a self regulated bunch of clowns.
Woodo
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18 Jan 2013 2:38pm
doggie said...
Woodo said...
I'd like to see a drug tolerant olympics just to see how much every world record get's smashed by.


Imagine how many of them would kark it afterwards tho


Haha! There would be a few blues as well with all the roid rage.
doggie
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18 Jan 2013 3:26pm
What about Cadel?
PottyMullet
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18 Jan 2013 6:47pm
Cadel has been a great rider for years and struggled to take a win (TDF), but would have a couple more if it was not for other drug cheats. Cadel is clean as he has been affected by all the "Human" things that bring us all down in performance (fatigue and illness etc.)
Mobydisc
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18 Jan 2013 6:55pm
The whole sport of long distance cycling is not natural. Once upon a time the Tour de France was normal when cyclists used to get a lift up the hill. Everyone did it so no one was disadvantaged. So what if he used drugs? The professional sports theory that taking drugs is cheating is a bit strange. Its wrong to take drugs but its okay to not have a real job and spend 12 hours a day training at the taxpayers expense. Training so hard and so long is just as unnatural as injecting some junk in your arm.



Killbot
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18 Jan 2013 3:56pm
At least he has the ball to come out and admit he cheated.
doggie
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18 Jan 2013 4:03pm
PottyMullet said...
Cadel has been a great rider for years and struggled to take a win (TDF), but would have a couple more if it was not for other drug cheats. Cadel is clean as he has been affected by all the "Human" things that bring us all down in performance (fatigue and illness etc.)


Sure?
LateStarter
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18 Jan 2013 4:08pm
doggie said...
PottyMullet said...
Cadel has been a great rider for years and struggled to take a win (TDF), but would have a couple more if it was not for other drug cheats. Cadel is clean as he has been affected by all the "Human" things that bring us all down in performance (fatigue and illness etc.)


Sure?


Of course. Have a look at footage from the tour between the late 90's and mid 00's when Cadel was one of only a handful of guys who weren't on the Juice.

He's easy to spot - he's the bloke at the back of the Peleton looking like his brakes are on
choco
choco
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18 Jan 2013 6:55pm
bit silly really these guys take all sorts of supplements and legal drugs
siny
siny
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18 Jan 2013 8:18pm
Sure cadel is clean , well as clean as the rest often . 100 percent of them are on something ,some get caught some don't
doggie
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18 Jan 2013 5:20pm
LateStarter said...
doggie said...
PottyMullet said...
Cadel has been a great rider for years and struggled to take a win (TDF), but would have a couple more if it was not for other drug cheats. Cadel is clean as he has been affected by all the "Human" things that bring us all down in performance (fatigue and illness etc.)


Sure?


Of course. Have a look at footage from the tour between the late 90's and mid 00's when Cadel was one of only a handful of guys who weren't on the Juice.

He's easy to spot - he's the bloke at the back of the Peleton looking like his brakes are on


But now he has won one against druggies, he must be supercycleman
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
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18 Jan 2013 10:00pm
Killbot said...
At least he has the ball to come out and admit he cheated.


No point in closing the gate after the horse bolted, was his only choice.
Indodreaming
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18 Jan 2013 10:05pm
I dont get the whole performance enhancing arguement.

In AFL a lot of players cannt take the field by half way through the season without a buch of painkilling injections but thats not performance enhancing ???
da vecta
da vecta
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19 Jan 2013 3:41pm
Lance and Oprah. I'm not a fan of either. I'm surprised he managed to get a word in edgeways.
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