It's not the end of the decade....despite what the news is telling us.

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holy guacamole
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1 Jan 2020 3:27pm
That's the end of this year.

Think year 1CE-10CE. That's the first decade....etc.

Happy New Year!
Subsonic
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1 Jan 2020 4:38pm
Except the decade starts at the 0 year, not 1. Must be a lefty thing thinking it starts at 1.

happy new year.
holy guacamole
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1 Jan 2020 5:15pm
No, the first year of the common era is year one. There is no year zero. Zero is nothing but a concept marking a moment in time.

If indeed the first year CE was zero, then every year after that is out by one year.

Dunno what lefties have to do with anything.

The last year BCE is followed immediately by the first year CE. Look it up.

Pugwash
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1 Jan 2020 5:22pm
Holybonodrio!!!

Zero is zero.
One is one.
Two is many!
Cambodge
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1 Jan 2020 8:38pm
holy guacamole said..
That's the end of this year.

Think year 1CE-10CE. That's the first decade....etc.

Happy New Year!


Mathematically correct. Culturally and socially you've got no chance.
bjw
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1 Jan 2020 7:55pm
Enjoy that party by yourself next year HGC.
Crusoe
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1 Jan 2020 8:24pm
holy guacamole said..
That's the end of this year.

Think year 1CE-10CE. That's the first decade....etc.

Happy New Year!


Same discussion 20 years ago. All it would meant is that you would be a year late for the party of the century because they were only holding it once.
jn1
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1 Jan 2020 9:09pm
holy guacamole said..
That's the end of this year.

Think year 1CE-10CE. That's the first decade....etc.


Ok, thanks Arthur C Clarke
Mr Milk
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1 Jan 2020 11:16pm
How does holy guacamole deal with fractions? If numbers start from 1?
Subsonic
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1 Jan 2020 8:58pm
holy guacamole said..
No, the first year of the common era is year one. There is no year zero. Zero is nothing but a concept marking a moment in time.

If indeed the first year CE was zero, then every year after that is out by one year.

Dunno what lefties have to do with anything.

The last year BCE is followed immediately by the first year CE. Look it up.



Ok, looked it up. It appears you are technically correct.


Emperor Palpatine......errrrr, Constantine strikes again.

NotWal
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2 Jan 2020 1:06am
Mr Milk said..
How does holy guacamole deal with fractions? If numbers start from 1?


You can have parts of 1 but you can't have parts of zero.
Mobydisc
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2 Jan 2020 6:32am
There was no year zero, unless of course you were unfortunate enough to be a citizen of Democratic Kampuchea.

So for those people they would have been able to justly say the year ending a decade or century ended with a nine and the first year of the new decade ends with a zero.
holy guacamole
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2 Jan 2020 3:45am
It's only an interesting philosophical and cultural point.

Pop culture often gets things wrong. This is one such case.

Mathematically there is no debate, only ignorance.
FormulaNova
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2 Jan 2020 3:47am
Cambodge said..

holy guacamole said..
That's the end of this year.

Think year 1CE-10CE. That's the first decade....etc.

Happy New Year!



Mathematically correct. Culturally and socially you've got no chance.


Yeah, it just sounds weird. 1990 was not in the 90's?

1980 was in the 70's?

That's just crazy talk.
holy guacamole
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2 Jan 2020 4:02am
^^ Logic isn't crazy. You are right Formula the pop culture interpretation is understandable.

We celebrate and mark decades a year early because it sounds and looks right but, technically it's not correct.

We categorise years into decades for cultural reasons, but in reality there is no "decade" as such, only numbers and no year zero.

Not trying to change anything just making an interesting point of logic.

Crazy talk is claiming there was a year zero and that technically, year 10 was the start of the second decade.

Interesting test of logic vs pop culture.
psychojoe
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2 Jan 2020 5:34am
I finally get what this stupid thread is all about. The A.D. calendar was invented using Roman numerals which had no concept of 0.
Rupert
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2 Jan 2020 8:58am
Whilst not wishing to distract from the seriousness of this issue confronting us in 2020 but . . . . who cares?


Subsonic
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2 Jan 2020 6:07am
psychojoe said..
I finally get what this stupid thread is all about. The A.D. calendar was invented using Roman numerals which had no concept of 0.


And its all based around the concept that Jesus was real. Go figure...
psychojoe
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2 Jan 2020 7:41am
Subsonic said..

psychojoe said..
I finally get what this stupid thread is all about. The A.D. calendar was invented using Roman numerals which had no concept of 0.



And its all based around the concept that Jesus was real. Go figure...


I think it's fair to suggest a carpenter may have been born 2000 years ago.
He just probably wasn't all that important
Subsonic
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2 Jan 2020 8:02am
psychojoe said..

Subsonic said..


psychojoe said..
I finally get what this stupid thread is all about. The A.D. calendar was invented using Roman numerals which had no concept of 0.




And its all based around the concept that Jesus was real. Go figure...



I think it's fair to suggest a carpenter may have been born 2000 years ago.
He just probably wasn't all that important


Yeah, maybe.
AUS1111
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2 Jan 2020 8:55am
psychojoe said..

I think it's fair to suggest a carpenter may have been born 2000 years ago.
He just probably wasn't all that important

LOL. He may or may not have been the "son of God", but it's fairly certain he was important.
holy guacamole
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2 Jan 2020 10:47am
Thanks for the laughs peeps!

Happy New Year.
Kamikuza
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2 Jan 2020 1:10pm
Even if you celebrate the new decade on January 1, 2021 you're still wrong.
Crusoe
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2 Jan 2020 2:03pm
The truth is only a lie we all agree to believe.
Poida
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2 Jan 2020 12:22pm
I always explain to look at a number line. Zero is the starting point. O.5 is half way through the first year. Year 1.5 from my world would be 0.5 years in your world.
albers
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3 Jan 2020 2:11pm
^^^^
Agreed.

When you are born, you are 0 days old.

365 days later, you are 1 year old.
Macroscien
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3 Jan 2020 1:38pm
albers said..
^^^^
Agreed.

When you are born, you are 0 days old.

365 days later, you are 1 year old.

With that difference that when you are born you are already 9 month old.If you still may have some doubt on conception you hardly can consider yourself " nobody" an hour or day before "birth day"
In such case Christin world may consider our era beginning about March , negative 1 year ( or negative zero )

We could see potential for quite interesting experiment AD 3000+.
Lets imagine the human is breed in artificial womb, supplying you all ingredients for all 9 months . But on the critical day you are not released but sill kept in this artificial womb. Now you could grow inside this nice, safe environment and develop brain and muscles while still swimming inside. You will start to learn and communicate without the need to be ever "born" . Possibly human could remain in this watery environment whole life if needed. Having technical means of 3rd millenia may have as much exchange with external world as nowaday , almost.
Harrow
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3 Jan 2020 2:44pm
Macroscien said..

albers said..
^^^^
Agreed.

When you are born, you are 0 days old.

365 days later, you are 1 year old.

With that difference that when you are born you are already 9 month old.If you still may have some doubt on conception you hardly can consider yourself " nobody" and hour or day before "birth day"
In such case Christin world may consider our era beginning about March , negative 1 year ( or negative zere )

Don't forget you are already 2 weeks old before you are even conceived, since the pregnancy is dated from the last missed menstruation.
Macroscien
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3 Jan 2020 1:58pm



Harrow said..



Don't forget you are already 2 weeks old before you are even conceived,



Yep, some even consider world as computer simulation ( ELon Musk) but alternatively we could all still seat in glass jars and the rest is simulation.In such case the birthday means the day you received your first iPhone to communicate with external world from glass jar.
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