Check ebay.

Turbo specialist inspected the turbo and reckons its on its way out, lots of play in the shaft, talked to another specialist over the phone and he was not surprised as its about 100,000 when the Iload turbo problems start. I don't know the technical reason for the extra pressure to blow off the intercooler hose but all to do with warn out turbo parts.
You don't hear anything until the hose blows off! And apparently you dont want to ignore a warn out turbo. Did some searching and its common or so it seems.

^^ They are not 'cheap' to rebuild due to the tolerances involved and the balancing of something that runs at 150,000 rpm. Still, I think it what what most people would call a major expense....
Then again, yes its cheaper than the horrific price the manufacturer will charge for a whole turbo. Bloody highway robbery to charge $5K for a 'genuine' turbo when the same thing made by Garrett is $2K new. Agree with the wastegate issue.

Sounds like Jman has been fed some B.S. If he is getting an overboost that makes the hoses blow off it is
(1) hose clamps / hoses (duh) or
(2) the wastegate solenoid is not activating so it overboosts or
(3) ECU (if it is involved in boost control) is not doing it's bit properly (unlikely, ECU boost control is a bit more flash than a commercial vehicle...? Not familiar with how Hyundeee does it)

None of them are actually the turbo at fault, it is what is controlling the boost that is at fault.
Saying u need a new turbo just cos you have an overboost is like rebuilding your house cos the aircon broke.


But if the turbo IS fkd and has major sideplay, and the overboost..... I'd run with warranty. Turbo's last for 200,000 km plus on trucks. The transport industry would not use turbochargers on 90% of their vehicles if they were unreliable yah?
100K for a major engine component is bvllsh!tfarken.
Australian consumer law states that if it does not last as long as a reasonable consumer would expect they have to fix it (out of warranty or not). Look at Jeep right now...

any chance that the inlet manifold is choked up with carbon?

that would restrict flow - bumping up pressure and maybe blow hoses off,

the extra pressure would most likely mess up seals and sensors as well.



stephen

^^ I think you have a shot - it is only just over 100,000 and a reasonable consumer would expect it to last a lot longer than that. It is not Hyundai doing it out of the kindness of their heart, it would be your consumer affairs mob in your state reminding them of Australian consumer law and directing them to fix. The consumer affairs mob may think it has "lasted as long as reasonably expected" but you don't know that til you try. Worth making a 15min inquiry to save $5K.....?
If everyone does that then suddenly Hyundai have to fix lots of them and we start getting quality, not rubbish built to barely last to warranty end.

Mark _australia said..
^^ I think you have a shot - it is only just over 100,000 and a reasonable consumer would expect it to last a lot longer than that. It is not Hyundai doing it out of the kindness of their heart, it would be your consumer affairs mob in your state reminding them of Australian consumer law and directing them to fix. The consumer affairs mob may think it has "lasted as long as reasonably expected" but you don't know that til you try. Worth making a 15min inquiry to save $5K.....?
If everyone does that then suddenly Hyundai have to fix lots of them and we start getting quality, not rubbish built to barely last to warranty end.

Good luck

Ok thanks for all the advice, I'm going to check on the progress of the repair tomorrow and they will be able to tell me why it failed. Like I said the company are supposed to be experts in the design and reconditioning of turbo's and testing them.

Would like to know what manufactures handbook says about how often you should change the oil . My hunydee gets a oil change every 5000km including oil filter . The handbook for mine says every 7500km so does my no:1 daughters Getz and no:2 daughters Elantra . I have always run a mineral oil in mine 5w - 30 by Fuchs . No problems so far (touch wood) . Sorry to hear of your drama

Jman said..

bounty said..
Would like to know what manufactures handbook says about how often you should change the oil . My hunydee gets a oil change every 5000km including oil filter . The handbook for mine says every 7500km so does my no:1 daughters Getz and no:2 daughters Elantra . I have always run a mineral oil in mine 5w - 30 by Fuchs . No problems so far (touch wood) . Sorry to hear of your drama

In the Iload book it says 15,000 unless you use it in extreme conditions then it 7500 so I always figured every 10,000 was a happy medium.

Its not like I drive hard or tow, haven't even had the front pads replaced yet, even the original battery is still going!

The batteries in those can last up to 5+ years. I saw an OE battery in a Terracan that went for 6.5 years

Yeah its opened my eyes up about diesels and I just wanted to let people know of my experience with the Iload TD.

I had not a bad thing to say about mine until this happened. Hopefully the end of my problems.

I will certainly look at all the other van options when I'm ready to update as the service requirements seem to very a lot.

Ok sit down, I paid $3000 for them to completely rebuild the turbo, thats all new parts and engine flush new hoses, not cheap but the other place recommended to me wouldn't even look at it for 3 weeks and were quoting the same. I wasn't just going to put new hoses and clamps on and forget about it and wait till it completely dies.

Know doubt you could buy a new one off ebay and get someone to fit it and off you go but I was happy to have a experienced turbo reconditioner do the work and guarantee there work and check out the rest of the engine. Didn't want to have the van breaking down and off the road over xmas new year period either.

Yeah the turbo timer is something to consider, maybe on the next van.

myusernam said..
a catch can is a good idea also

They do look beneficial.

DARTH said..

Jman said..

bounty said..
Would like to know what manufactures handbook says about how often you should change the oil . My hunydee gets a oil change every 5000km including oil filter . The handbook for mine says every 7500km so does my no:1 daughters Getz and no:2 daughters Elantra . I have always run a mineral oil in mine 5w - 30 by Fuchs . No problems so far (touch wood) . Sorry to hear of your drama

In the Iload book it says 15,000 unless you use it in extreme conditions then it 7500 so I always figured every 10,000 was a happy medium.

Its not like I drive hard or tow, haven't even had the front pads replaced yet, even the original battery is still going!

The batteries in those can last up to 5+ years. I saw an OE battery in a Terracan that went for 6.5 years

Yeah I would be fkn stoked to have 6 yrs from the battery and only get 100K from the turbo.
If the manufacturer recommends 15K oil changes, but Jman did 10K and then the turbo bearings are stuffed due to carbon there is something wrong and it aint his doing....






BTW I am on about 7yrs on a Delkor calcium battery in my 4wd, does mostly short trips and has been proper flat at least 4 or 5 times.