Humanity makes me sad.

What an absolute tosser, how he thinks that makes him look like a big man is beyond me!

5 years in a wonderful Zimbabwe prison would give him time to reflect on his narcissism.

Haha his dentist fb page has around 563 likes but has had nearly 7500 ratings and comments. I'd suggest his business is drawing a bit of heat thanks to his $83000 plus shot

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youngbull said..
gotta love hype..

It's sad but the lion is a media tool to take money from rich dentist and so forth. They don't give two sxxt's about the lion, cause if they did the poachers would not be able to obtain the permits in the first place

IMO the dentist is a prick but appears to have followed the law and you can not hate him for that.

No, Youngbull, you are wrong about the law being followed. It is alleged that they used a bait in the form of a dead animal, and towed it around to lure the lion out of the national park's boundary. Once it was out of the national park, it became a fair game for the stooges. I bet, if you have a dog, it will fall for the bait just like the lion did.

Perhaps this macho dentist should be subjected to having all his teeth pulled out without anesthetic ?

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dan111984 said..
Good on you for making a thread about someone killing a lion.. Meanwhile, things a million times worse are happening all over the world..

And the common denominator is .......................zing....humans.


But you are correct, no shortage of bad stuff to pick from.

Dan,

What's considered worse? killing humans?

What's the difference between shooting one animal or another? I'm all for killing animals to eat, have no issue with lions or sharks killing humans to chew on. Or humans killing a cow for a great tbone

But to do it for a kick, I've never understood?

I hope this makes you guys feel better..

Especially British bulldog pups!

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seanhogan said..
not defending the prick dentist, (I can't see the point of killing if you don't eat the blessed thing) but at east he uses a bow and arrow.

Yeah, I can sort of see that point, but only if he is within a few metres and its a fair fight

I must admit, I have no desire to kill animals other than food, and it makes me wonder why people need to do this. Its not like the lion was a threat to him. Its not like it was a real contest, so its not much of an accomplishment.

I am sure if he has somehow missed (he didn't kill it straightaway anyway and it was killed with a rifle), and started attacking him, his guides would have killed it with a gun. So its not exactly a heroic battle.

Years ago a South African guy staying at the same place at me was telling me how his dad had a farm where people went to shoot wild animals, including giraffes. Giraffes? It must be such a challenge evading them and their razor sharp talons

I guess if there is one slight positive to this type of thing is that the money paid by these hunters is used to conserve the areas that the remaining animals live in.

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seanhogan said..
not defending the prick dentist, (I can't see the point of killing if you don't eat the blessed thing) but at east he uses a bow and arrow.

Based on what I knew, the lion wasn't dead on impact by the arrow. The two stooges had to track him down to finish him off with a gun

I once saw a dead goat with an arrow sticking out of its stomach. It was leaning against a tree. Judging by the location of the arrow, ie. soft part of the stomach, it would not have killed it straight away. I suspect it would have been an agonizing death for many days Now I dislike goats as they have become quite a plague in areas around the bushland near me. Quite often I wish I have a way to deal with them as the young trees were pushed down and demolished before they have a chance to grow up. Bow and arrow are not the most efficient way to kill. But then again, if you have $50,000 to splash, money he gained by charging his patients an arm and a leg, that word "humane" does not figure much anyway.

I want to confess that I helped my dog to kill a feral cat the other day. She was one mean animal with huge head and body. She also had two young semi-grown kittens with her. It was an act I hated to do but feral cats are definitely at the top of my worst enemies list. Perhaps now that he-man dentist took the line honor ?

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dan111984 said..
Killing a human is much worse than killing an animal. A human has way more potential than any animal.

Also, in my opinion, killings animals for pleasure is sick..

I guess you could argue that a Sumatran Tiger or White Rhino holds way more potential for the survival of its species than one of 6 billion humans does. It would make interesting reality TV, The last tiger in existence or those 10 people standing over there?

Dan - spot on

there will be a heap of FB pages and Change.org petitions devoted to the flavour of the month "dentist shot lion" as the $10 coffee sippers scroll away on the acre of glass latest n greatest phone or iPood and ignore other horrific sh!t happening to humans.

And BTW as a shooter i condemn him - just think the red thumbs for Dan and support for animals over humans is pretty rank

A mate posted this response to someone else on FB and i thought it made for interesting reading just how killing a lion/hunting in the area has effected the Lion population. I thought id share it as i couldn't have spelled it out any better..

I’ve visited Hwange National Park and it’s a spectacular place. Uncontrolled hunting on private concessions bordering the park resulted in a dramatic loss in lion numbers. Basically the hunters would only target the big adult males, resulting in them destroying the pride structure. Every time they shot one, his cubs would then be killed by younger males trying to establish a territory. But of course they then would be shot as soon as they had a full mane, and the their cubs killed in turn. Basically human interference was stopping cubs maturing, and the population crashed. They had banned all lion hunting bordering the park when i was there in 2013. Very sad indeed

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jbshack said..
A mate posted this response to someone else on FB and i thought it made for interesting reading just how killing a lion/hunting in the area has effected the Lion population. I thought id share it as i couldn't have spelled it out any better..

I’ve visited Hwange National Park and it’s a spectacular place. Uncontrolled hunting on private concessions bordering the park resulted in a dramatic loss in lion numbers. Basically the hunters would only target the big adult males, resulting in them destroying the pride structure. Every time they shot one, his cubs would then be killed by younger males trying to establish a territory. But of course they then would be shot as soon as they had a full mane, and the their cubs killed in turn. Basically human interference was stopping cubs maturing, and the population crashed. They had banned all lion hunting bordering the park when i was there in 2013. Very sad indeed

Yeah, they mention that in the article. They suggest that the next in line as the leader will kill all the other cubs from the previous leader.

I find it amazing the way this trait has evolved.

As you said, do this often enough, and the population suffers badly.

^ That is the information you get from watching doco's, rather than trawling through rubbish on CT websites.

Couldn't agree more. If more people became aware of the "trophy hunter" mentality of the rich and famous, whilst appreciating the efforts of "feral species destroyer" types, and then those that hunt purely for food, the better.

I believe NSW has a pretty well managed hunting regime for feral deer. I don't remember a fatality or injusry as a result of this policy.

WA has it's own populations of feral deer. I would love to see a similar system set up here in WA.

I would love to be able to hunt a deer for food, with the appropriate tool to do the jobm, humanely, and then have the reward of making the best possible meals out of the result.

Caveman mentality? Some probabnly think so.

As far as Africa goes, probably need to look at the chain as a whole, if no-one wants to buy a lion hunting trip, or rhino horn chopped off a rhino's carcase, then there is no point killing them.

But is it expedient to lay blame at the feet of USA or China? This could separate the men from the boys...

Just thought I'd add, there is an awesome recipe for rabbit, that I've cooked many times, which my kids loved. (never wrote it down, so from memory)

Break up the carcase into "normal cuts", such as back legs including the haunch, front legs including the shoulder, and the backbone including the backstraps.

Pan fry the pieces on pretty high heat to brown them. Take out of pan.

Pan fry some finely chopped bacon and field mushroom, a little bit of finely chopped onion, and let the juices be, without reducing.

Add the rabbit pieces to the pan, and add whatever white wine of your choice is left, and simmer for a bit.

Pinch of salt and pepper, and spices to taste, and let simmer while pasta goes on.

Cook tagliatelle pata as per recommenations on packet.

Serve awesome meal to family, explaining was caught and processed in person, and enjoy rest of sixpack of nice wines with friends.

Add too much and you lose the distinct flavour of fresh rabbit, and enjoy the fact, that if you caught it wild, you have reduced the population of an invasive species by a bit.

Enjoy if you try it.