More random questions for the seabreeze brains trust.
Have just developed a hernia and hospital wouldn't operate as it's not strangulated. Waiting time to get it done through medicare is months!!
Pretty annoyed with myself as 6 months ago I was looking at getting health insurance and after a few hours of wading through all of the bullsh1t small print I was loosing the will to live and it got shelved for a later date.
Doesn't hurt at all but the lump is pretty disconcerting. So has had anyone had one before? Would like to know just how careful I need to be with it.
Think that I'm going to have to go down the private surgery route. So I'm also just chasing some ballpark figures for a minor op as trying to get numbers out of anyone is a lot harder than it should be.
rough estimate for a half day in hospital and possibly an anaethatist??
I would estimate price $1500 - $5000, someone else might be able to narrow it down further.
I recently had something similar (appendix removed) private and was out of pocket around $1500 when all said & done - with private basic health insurance.
I had one when much younger, is in fact most common surgery in men. Fixed with a bit of nylon mesh sewn in.
Pretty much fine but don't strain - lifting things or otherwise. 
I've had 3 of those bastard things and I just turned40. Last one I waited 6 months once diagnosed to see a surgeon and a further 2 months to have an opp. If it's a low hernia it will only get dangerous once it starts to drop into your scrotum, this sucks cause you gotta lie down and put it back in place!!. You can buy a "hernia belt or truss" to keep it in place. Good luck!!
i had one last year
the hospital thought i didnt have health insurance and rang to query if i really wanted the operation. They were quoting numbers like about $5,000. It was about $1,000 after refunds etc with health insurance.
My doctor told me it was optional to get it operated on, the surgeon said better now than when your older.
At least 4-6weeks off the water.
i paid for mine in '96 so i didn't have to wait six months.
it was keyhole surgery and i was back on my bike doing easy rides within a few days.
While mine was a different operation, I think the pricing guide would be similiar - just different fees for the surgeon?
The hospital quoted me roughly $500 for a hospital bed (for the day) and $800 for the operating room fees. The anesthetist cost about $600 I believe.
Select to expand quoteknigit said..
More random questions for the seabreeze brains trust.
Have just developed a hernia and hospital wouldn't operate as it's not strangulated. Waiting time to get it done through medicare is months!!
Pretty annoyed with myself as 6 months ago I was looking at getting health insurance and after a few hours of wading through all of the bullsh1t small print I was loosing the will to live and it got shelved for a later date.
Doesn't hurt at all but the lump is pretty disconcerting. So has had anyone had one before? Would like to know just how careful I need to be with it.
Think that I'm going to have to go down the private surgery route. So I'm also just chasing some ballpark figures for a minor op as trying to get numbers out of anyone is a lot harder than it should be.
rough estimate for a half day in hospital and possibly an anaethatist??
I developed a hernia just after breaking my back, I'm fairly sure it was due to sit ups (rehab) I sure didn't lift anything remotely heavy.
I had private hc, but there were no Drs. that charged the fees the private hc would cover... so I would be out of pocket ~$2500.
I waited the 4 months and went public.
During that time I had one scare... was swimming and more of my gut than usual popped down and I went pale for a minute, other than that just lied down and push it back in.
Private healthcare is a complete useless con. and I just use it to limit my tax medicare surcharge another f'ing con.
Ah well. Will just have to find a way to cough up 3-5k I guess and get it sorted quickly.
Call me old fashioned but I prefer my insides to stay inside of me. Just seen my gp for a referral to a surgeon but he's told me not to do anything too heavy but I'll figure out what sort of things do and don't cause a problem for it. Whereas the doc I spoke to at the hospital would have had me flat on my back for the next six months. Don't know how you put up with one for 8 months Orynoco, everytime mine pops out it gives me the heeby-jeebies big time.
Select to expand quoteFlySurfer said..knigit said..
More random questions for the seabreeze brains trust.
Have just developed a hernia and hospital wouldn't operate as it's not strangulated. Waiting time to get it done through medicare is months!!
Pretty annoyed with myself as 6 months ago I was looking at getting health insurance and after a few hours of wading through all of the bullsh1t small print I was loosing the will to live and it got shelved for a later date.
Doesn't hurt at all but the lump is pretty disconcerting. So has had anyone had one before? Would like to know just how careful I need to be with it.
Think that I'm going to have to go down the private surgery route. So I'm also just chasing some ballpark figures for a minor op as trying to get numbers out of anyone is a lot harder than it should be.
rough estimate for a half day in hospital and possibly an anaethatist??
I developed a hernia just after breaking my back, I'm fairly sure it was due to sit ups (rehab) I sure didn't lift anything remotely heavy.
I had private hc, but there were no Drs. that charged the fees the private hc would cover... so I would be out of pocket ~$2500.
I waited the 4 months and went public.
During that time I had one scare... was swimming and more of my gut than usual popped down and I went pale for a minute, other than that just lied down and push it back in.
Private healthcare is a complete useless con. and I just use it to limit my tax medicare surcharge another f'ing con.
If the sit ups caused the hernia, there was probably a weakness there anyway.
I had a similar surgery, but by going private I got it done as soon as I could by a good surgeon, but the out of pocket expenses were still pretty steep.
Just imagine what private health care is going to be like if they push more and more down our throat, and try and privatise the hospitals. It will be big premiums, the same healthcare, and profits for the health insurers.
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
If the sit ups caused the hernia, there was probably a weakness there anyway.
I was doing situps on an inversion rack... 100% sure it caused it.Select to expand quoteknigit said..
Ah well. Will just have to find a way to cough up 3-5k I guess and get it sorted quickly.
Be smart, go to Thailand for a nice holiday and get it done there... 3 days of world class service and you're good to travel as long as you've got wheels on your suitcase.
The surgery is simple and you want somebody gentle with small steady hands, it's the bruising/stabbing that hurts.
Select to expand quoteFlySurfer said..
Be smart, go to Thailand for a nice holiday and get it done there... 3 days of world class service and you're good to travel as long as you've got wheels on your suitcase.
The surgery is simple and you want somebody gentle with small steady hands, it's the bruising/stabbing that hurts.
Better still, get the operation attempted by the cheapest doctor you can find, and then get travel insurance to fly you back to Aus, and get operated on as an emergency 
In all seriousness, I keep on seeing those programs where people get botched surgery overseas and then need to get it corrected. I guess its probably the minority, but it still makes you think.
Don't pull up a floor 3 weeks after your operation!
That's what i did, bad move!
Next operation hurt twice as much, never again touch wood!!
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..In all seriousness, I keep on seeing those programs where people get botched surgery overseas and then need to get it corrected. I guess its probably the minority, but it still makes you think.
In all seriousness, I fairly regularly read about Aussies getting killed or maimed due to having operations, procedures and diagnoses performed by the Aussie medical industry.
Doesn't matter where you go, mistakes happen, and people suffer for it.
Cant recall where I saw the figures, but IIRC, deaths from medical mistakes, dodgy decisions, malpractice and plain sloppy work by our medico's are one of the leading causes of early deaths in this country.
stephen
Yeah, when the nurse says "I've never failed to get a catheter in" you know your in trouble.
Three catheters later, some top shelf pain killers, two other nurses looking on, she f@cking rammed that baby home
www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2013/s3778256.htm
not the article I was looking for - but near enough.
stephen
Select to expand quoteFormulaNova said..
I keep on seeing those programs where people get botched surgery overseas and then need to get it corrected.
I think I showed you an x-ray of my botched back.
Select to expand quoteFlySurfer said..FormulaNova said..
I keep on seeing those programs where people get botched surgery overseas and then need to get it corrected.
I think I showed you an x-ray of my botched back.
Yeah, I think you did. I didn't take note that you said it was botched though. I thought/assumed it was just a bad break.
It was interesting to note in the article Stephen linked to that 3% of doctors are responsible for 50% of the complaints. If the names were generally known, I think they would be boycotted. It was interesting to see that the anesthetist that killed someone admitted that he often never checks the armbands for allergies. How is that possible, and how is it that the hospital doesn't have checks to make sure these guys check these things?
I guess it makes sense if the surgeons overseas are part of a large 'international' hospital, where their reputation and standards are important to them. I guess it would be much more risky if its just a lone surgeon operating in his own business.
