Great Ocean Road Committee & Coastal Erosion

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Simondo
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12 Jun 2011 2:33pm
I read that (GORCC / GORC) The Great Ocean Road Coast Committee are paying for a study into coastal erosion....

Get's me thinking... and this little story kind of applies to the way many councils and individual bodies think these days........;

Ok;
There's always the odd set of old stairs and the odd old boat ramp (on the ocean coast), that get washed away over time....

So lets commission a report into erosion!! Instead of just accepting the reality, and the fact it was old...

I think they should save their money, and accept the fact that these things happen (Sh!t Happens!).

Realistically, they only have 50-70 years of living memory to go by.... and with most coastal structures, you should only plan to get 10-20 years from them anyway....

Occasionally you will here tales of "events" that are bigger than anyone can remember... Isn't that just the 50 year storm / 50 year event, that can happen.

It appears this can be the thinking process at GORC, and perhaps at other councils (??? I'm generalising.. !! );
1) Old Small Boat Ramp in an ocean front area slowly erodes away
2) Let's commission an investigation into coastal erosion
3) Any rebuild plan is put on hold for now....

When the process should just be;
1) Old Boat ramp erodes
2) Have a meeting on site between the GORC, 2 different engineers, a older retired gentleman engineer from the local area, a regular ramp user, and a contractor builder from council's list - and discuss the options, is it OK to rebuild at current location, if so, just "get on with it". Move is back a little maybe, if that results in a better option for the medium term (20 years).

I know it's more involved that that.... But can't people just accept that "erosion events" on the coast are different from year to year.... Even with the proposed / suggested sea level rises, shouldn't we just rebuild as necessary, it will last about 20 years, and if sea levels change later, just rebuild it later to account for that !? Again, slightly simplified approach... But I'm sure most agree with that concept - unless you are a specialist coastal erosion consultant, looking for a job to do ! haha!


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Separately, we were costing a huge rail embankment on a different projects, with glorious mass concrete foundation options.... Up front, I'm telling the team, this design looks like a crock of sh!t. The (Large Multi-national) Engineering Outfit needs to be shot for even letting it get this far.... But 5 minute "bag of fag packet calculations" are telling me it is at least 50% more expensive than a bridge deck through there. We tell the client. Client tells us, no you must price the embankment. 4-5 days later, full detailed embankment price is complete. Our whole team knows it's the wrong answer...

Ground conditions are poor, but we know a few more piles a little longer for the bridge will cover it....

During discussion, one of the guys says, "lets just build a bridge and get over it!".
(Pun intended!).


Simondo
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12 Jun 2011 2:36pm
Also, various sections of the Great Ocean Road are primarily a limestone / sandstone soft rock formation.... which is slowly eroding. For example, the 6 apostles or what ever is left down there !

PS - I'm not a geologist... But I went to China (for work) with a bunch of them recently, and went to the Great Wall... they cracked me up... They were so excited to see Chinese Mountains and Rock Formations, and discuss between them the make up of the mountains.... etc ! Plus the rock types used in The Wall !
Simondo
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12 Jun 2011 2:45pm
Here's the opposite. I know for a fact that this wall is at least 2m high. And in reality, probably at least 2.5m and up to 3.0m. At the moment, you can only see about 0.4m of wall. Sand stacked up against it. Most summer's the wall is displayed at about 2.0m.

This was taken yesterday, at Torquay Ocean Beach.
(Apologies for not getting my dog in frame!)


ockanui
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12 Jun 2011 3:00pm
yes we have the same erosion problems in the Black Rock area of the Bay which I would assume is in itself an example of the Bay itself, depending on the prevailing winds is evident by the huge amount of natural sand movement which is then interpreted by councils as a problem, hence the construction of some great big rock groynes which then causes a bay affect devoid of sand on which ever side opposite to the prevailing winds. There is a contrary opinion group that is after the rock groynes to be removed [ fat chance now] right or wrong as the case may be, but man loves to take nature on only to find the forces of nature will prevail, re ****ishima built a wall that would withstand a tsunami of 5m, waves of 14 came along, kappow!, zap! crash, nature wins, maybe we should have another committee meeting uh!
Simondo
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12 Jun 2011 3:14pm
Exactly Ock,... and form a new Steering Committee, and pay some people big coin, and those people are often the ones that just like the sound of their own voice.... ... and achieve very little, until they get sacked for not performing !
ockanui
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12 Jun 2011 3:27pm
consultants is the new buzz word, I used it a couple of times when I had no work, as part of the talk it up campaign.... oh yes I have got a few projects about to start and also doing lots of consultancy work, ....yeh yeh bloody yeh!
Simondo
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12 Jun 2011 8:57pm
PS - one my OC6 paddling buddies is on GORC. But I actually haven't had the time to talk to him about it. Get the inside gossip on what they do, and what they plan to achieve.

In all fairness, it looks like they do a fair bit.... I missed the extra "c" for Coast. I will amend the title now if I can.

www.gorcc.com.au/

Actually, nope, I'm not onboard yet... They think the native Coastal Tea Tree "Leptospermum laevigatum" is a weed. I think it is a plant that is winning a slow battle, in expanding it's horizons. They call it a weed west of Barwon Heads. I know for a fact, it is native to Breamlea (as in living memory native... - my Great Uncle kicked off that joint, and my Gramdma was a Horward - Horward Drive is the main drag which runs down to Bream Creek carpark). Breamlea is west of Barwon Heads.... So who are these IDIOTS who clasify a NATIVE as a WEED !! It is also in abundance over at Portsea & Sorrento... trees can spread and populate....(!!) and you (GORC?) COMMISSIONED some IDIOT to call it a WEED !! What a joke ! An absolute farce !

www.gorcc.com.au/projects/256/

Don't get me wrong though, I'm sure they do a pretty good job, day to day, with most of their tasks.... There's just a couple of points they need to get pulled up on !!

(They're getting me revved up now Ock! I might have to go along and check things out...)
SandS
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12 Jun 2011 9:22pm

and ... on trees , the one hundred year old cypress trees that our do good native lovers want to mulch , deserve to to stay i recon. great looking trees . and good wind breaks.
try creating a wind break from a row of wattles or gum trees.
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