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adolf
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8 Apr 2012 6:13pm
I want to get fitter and lose some weight - my goal when I hit 50, in two years time is to lose about 10kg, and I don't want to feel puffed out when running for 20 minutes straight. It would be great if I could complete a half marathon. So I don't think my expectations are that high given the time span.

First a bit of background.

I'm 47yo and currently weigh 94kg, I've smoked for the best part of my life, but now take nicotine pills, which seem to work for me pretty well. I still have the odd puff, but seem to manage, with my addiction. I enjoy drinking and would consume 4 or 5 bottles of wine over a weekend, and not that keen to give that up.

For the past 4 or 5 months I've been running/walking approx 2.5km three times a week (20 minutes per session), I also ride my bike 40 minutes a day to work. I think I eat quite healthy. I'll start the day with a freshly squeezed juice, maybe have a white coffee at morning tea, and eat a salad or soup for lunch and eat what my wife puts on the table for dinner - usually, meat and three veg - she's a bit of a hippy so I believe I eat well.

I've been losing some weight - but it seems very slow, maybe 1kg per month. More recently I've been doing my run/walk everyday - and I've had better results, but it's been a bit of a hard slog. I also go for a surf maybe once a fortnight, I'd surf more often but conditions are not always what I want. I refuse to go to the gym as I don't believe I need to go to an institution to get fit, and would prefer some home grown techniques to achieve my goal.

I guess there are a few other seabreezers like me. Does anyone have any other tips or tricks that I can do that will get me into shape a little faster, without adjusting my lifestyle too drastically.
Scotty88
Scotty88
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8 Apr 2012 6:21pm
Diet - it's what you eat. Stock the fridge and cupboard with healthy food - no crap and enjoy the wine as you still need a life.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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8 Apr 2012 6:36pm
Slower weight loss is permanent weight loss - I reckon losing 1kg a month is good. Maybe can step it up to 2kg p/m with better diet and smidge more exercise but I reckon you are doing great!
Sham1984
Sham1984
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8 Apr 2012 8:37pm

Try and add a resistance body weight circuit a couple of times
Per week.

It will kick start your Metabolsim and increase how many calories you will burn doing your other activities.

Create your own circuit with compound movements and mix it up so you don't get bored.
evlPanda
evlPanda
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8 Apr 2012 8:48pm
adolf said...
I refuse to go to the gym as I don't believe I need to go to an institution to get fit, and would prefer some home grown techniques to achieve my goal.

I guess there are a few other seabreezers like me. Does anyone have any other tips or tricks that I can do that will get me into shape a little faster, without adjusting my lifestyle too drastically.


I'm 38 and I was probably about as fit as you are now when I started: I weighed ~80kg, I could run 4km reasonably easy. I have walked 20 minutes to work every day for a few years. I eat reasonably healthy, no junk food ever, fresh and varied is best. I was OK, but nothing special fit wise.

I started doing Muay Thai at a gym six months ago. I'd say I am now, seriously, at least 3 times as fit as I was when I started. I've lost a belt notch and put on 4kg. Windsurfing 25 knots, bodysurfing almost closed beaches, running 5km barely raises my pulse these days. In bed [cough cough] I have to purposefully take it very easy. My resting pulse rate is 50. I often can't wait for a training session. I got my colleague into it and he lost 5kg in two months. I have never, in my life, come anywhere near as close to exerting as much energy as I have during an intense training session. When I first started I'd almost puke every time, now I do weights or a run after for fun. It's a steep curve.

The reason I mention it is that it is not boring. I haven't the personality type to just go to a gym. With any martial art the trainer will push you far, far beyond anything you thought possible, and there's no way you can stop in a class like this, unless you collapse (and people do).

And it's honestly really interesting, there is so much more to it than I imagined. I've just started doing a little light sparring and there really is a comparison to chess, or at least chequers. There are so many possibilities.

And it's not weather dependent (although weather dependency can be half the fun, eh?)

Overall very highly recommended.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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8 Apr 2012 6:49pm
^^ I shall start being nice to you now mr Panda....
Chilla
Chilla
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8 Apr 2012 6:50pm
Breakfast is important and so is mixing things up a bit, don't stick to the same routine as your body quickly adjusts and adapts so the exercise becomes less effective..run, swim, surf, cycle, try weights at home...building muscle is good, burns more calories then fat, lets you sort of diet while your just sitting around. At the end of the day it's basically an equation...if you put to much petrol into your car and don't drive it round enough it's gonna leak out into the boot. I don't like to be the one to bring it to your attention but running 20 min=250calories out, one bottle of wine=approximately 500 in....climbing down off my box now...
evlPanda
evlPanda
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8 Apr 2012 8:52pm
Mark _australia said...

^^ I shall start being nice to you now mr Panda....


If you stand perfectly still like a punching bag I could beat the living daylights out of you.
lotofwind
lotofwind
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8 Apr 2012 8:57pm
Chilla said...

Breakfast is important and so is mixing things up a bit, don't stick to the same routine as your body quickly adjusts and adapts so the exercise becomes less effective..run, swim, surf, cycle, try weights at home...building muscle is good, burns more calories then fat, lets you sort of diet while your just sitting around. At the end of the day it's basically an equation...if you put to much petrol into your car and don't drive it round enough it's gonna leak out into the boot. I don't like to be the one to bring it to your attention but running 20 min=250calories out, one bottle of wine=approximately 500 in....climbing down off my box now...


So for 5 bottles of wine he would need to run for 3 and 1/2 hours?? and thats if he dosent eat any cheese with it.
evlPanda
evlPanda
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8 Apr 2012 8:57pm
I'd like to add that being fit, feeling healthy, lots of fresh good food, sleeping well, stretching (i don't do enough), avoiding drugs and alcohol, ...the result of all this is quite probably better than being wealthy. I am quite sure I'd rather be fit and poor than the opposite.

Society doesn't put enough emphasis on this, although a lot of sci-fi or futurists from the early 20th century really emphasised the idea that in the future everyone would be like an Olympic athlete. What happened?

Just find something you love doing and get fit accidentally: why I windsurf (not enough).
adolf
adolf
1862 posts
1862 posts
8 Apr 2012 7:37pm
Chilla said...

Breakfast is important and so is mixing things up a bit, don't stick to the same routine as your body quickly adjusts and adapts so the exercise becomes less effective..run, swim, surf, cycle, try weights at home...building muscle is good, burns more calories then fat, lets you sort of diet while your just sitting around. At the end of the day it's basically an equation...if you put to much petrol into your car and don't drive it round enough it's gonna leak out into the boot. I don't like to be the one to bring it to your attention but running 20 min=250calories out, one bottle of wine=approximately 500 in....climbing down off my box now...


I'm hearing you. More recently, I've switched to a piece of toast and tuna for breakie or some muesli, yoghurt, fruit and honey and then having fresh juice for morning tea instead. I'm quite conscious of what I eat and am starting to read my body much better.

I do feel that the exercise I do may cancel out the wine I enjoy drinking on the weekend. The other thing I'v noticed since running/walking is that I'm feeling very stiff in the mornings, which kind of worries me. I'm ok about 20 minutes later - but it's something new that I'm a little concerned about.

As I've got older my metabolism has become messed up and I'd love to get that working better. I'm really looking for a routine that I can live with for a long time to come. I've done the quick weight loss fixes before - ie no breads/pastas etc, which work in the short term. I'm currently quite enjoying my routine - and the run/walks i've started. I can do a little more, but am conscious of not wanting to push to hard. But there are a few quirks that I don't think are working quite right and am looking for some subtle changes to what I'm doing or suggestions - keep em coming.

One of the biggest factors in my life, I feel that hinders my goal, is my sedentary job - sitting in front of a computer shifting pixels around a screen.

Have any of you had any experiences with yoga, relaxation, breathing techniques. I'm thinking that this may be beneficial that I could fit in.
ikw777
ikw777
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8 Apr 2012 9:59pm
Sounds like your getting interested in taking care of yourself and getting more out of your body into the future. Im the same age and have the same niggles and the same goal. I'd like to gently suggest that you do a little research into the effects of the wine consumption you have reported. Theres more to it than just the calories vis a viz your long term health. If you research it a bit and find afterwards your still happy with it then that's cool. On the other hand you might see some advantages for you in going in a new direction.
lotofwind
lotofwind
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8 Apr 2012 10:08pm
^^^^bang on.A unhealthy liver wont help you lose weight.
Im sure life can still be fun and enjoyable without 5 bottles of wine on the weekend.
as I take a sip of my double bourbon and coke

Maybe go for 3 bottles of wine spread over the whole week.
I know when I didnt touch the grog for 2 months I lost 10kgs without even trying.
I think its all about finding a happy balance, which get harder with age unfortunatly.

japie
japie
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8 Apr 2012 11:05pm
I have gone completely overboard. In fact I am a complete and utter pain in the arse to cater for so it is fortunate that I am single if you do not count the dog.

I have stuck with my pH diet religiously. The only thing that I have lapsed on is sugar and coffee and I reckon I drink the coffee so I can put sugar in it. I get almost uncontrollable sugar cravings.

Anyway, aside from that I have lost all of the fat that I had and got myself down to the weight I was when I was 24.( 57 now). Since then I have put on a few kilos but have been doing lots and lots of Hot Power Yoga, 27 sessions in a row in February, which really firmed me up and I reckon the additional kilos are muscle. On top of that I have been cycling to work and clocked up over 2500ls since the 7th of January.

I have stopped smoking completely, both dope and tobacco and not looked sideways at alchohol.

I find the company of drunks quite intolerable which is probably mutual.

I am heading up to Gladstone to prostitute myself for some gas or mining dollars and to avoid the winter.

When I have got enough accumulated I am thinking quite seriously about going to do one of those Muay Thai courses in Thailand so I can be rude to people with confidence.

I am now also firmly of the conclusion that I could have made my life a lot less painful while playing quite a high level of Union and League if I had paid more attention to my diet. My energy levels and stamina are at an all time high which is something I could have done with twenty years ago.



adolf
adolf
1862 posts
1862 posts
8 Apr 2012 9:09pm
^^ Yep ^^ and yep to the post above that.

4-5 bottles of wine is pretty excessive. I'd be just as happy with three.

I gave up alcohol last year for 3 months, and I was dead bored.

There would be a few less drunken right-wing rants on seabreeze, which would be a good thing. I could still get drunk one night per week - I could live with that - I'll give it a try.

I'm not sure why, but I reckon alcohol makes me become more right wing, homophobic, racist, inflexible, intolerant and extremely moody in the morning - I wake up some mornings feeling like Alan Jones, full of anger - what's going on with that?
petermac33
petermac33
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8 Apr 2012 9:14pm
Bought some f+v from an organic shop last week. The apples were crunchy for once.The apples from the big two are probably up to a year old.

Try the Gerson diet.

Get a good pair of walkers/runners and take the dog for a daily one hour walk on grass.

And no soft drinks.
ikw777
ikw777
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8 Apr 2012 11:15pm
adolf said...

I'm not sure why, but I reckon alcohol makes me become more right wing, homophobic, racist, inflexible, intolerant and extremely moody in the morning - I wake up some mornings feeling like Alan Jones, full of anger - what's going on with that?



It hinders higher brain function.
japie
japie
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8 Apr 2012 11:21pm
adolf said...

^^ Yep ^^ and yep to the post above that.

4-5 bottles of wine is pretty excessive. I'd be just as happy with three.

I gave up alcohol last year for 3 months, and I was dead bored.

There would be a few less drunken right-wing rants on seabreeze, which would be a good thing. I could still get drunk one night per week - I could live with that - I'll give it a try.

I'm not sure why, but I reckon alcohol makes me become more right wing, homophobic, racist, inflexible and really moody in the morning - I wake up feeling like Alan Jones - why is that?



Alchohol is farked. My mum died of it, my marriage died of it, the ex not me, my house mate is drinking himself into an early grave and of all the things I regret doing, most of them were done when pissed.

It is a cultural thing. Apparently Latino people party hard and long but it is a no no to get pissed and out of control as they lose face whereas we see it as a badge of honour. ****ed up values.

Anyway I am dong fine without it. People push me to have a drink now I tell them I am on a journey and it ****s up my compass. Generally they leave it there.
Skid
Skid
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1499 posts
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8 Apr 2012 11:29pm
Adolf, if you don't mind reading, get a copy of "in defense of food". It is not a diet book, it is more guidelines for eating.

The basic message is, "eat food*, not too much, mostly plants"

* Not everything humans eat is actually food, some of it is 'food like substance'.
bobajob
bobajob
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8 Apr 2012 11:31pm
Good for you! Igave up the puffers and have nevbder looked back!
bobajob
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8 Apr 2012 11:33pm
Spelling is for the missus
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
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9 Apr 2012 12:49am
adolf said...

I want to get fitter and loose some weight - my goal when I hit 50, in two years time is to lose about 10kg, and I don't want to feel puffed out when running for 20 minutes straight. It would be great if I could complete a half marathon. So I don't think my expectations are that high given the time span.

First a bit of background.

I'm 47yo and currently weigh 94kg, I've smoked for the best part of my life, but now take nicotine pills, which seem to work for me pretty well. I still have the odd puff, but seem to manage, with my addiction. I enjoy drinking and would consume 4 or 5 bottles of wine over a weekend, and not that keen to give that up.

For the past 4 or 5 months I've been running/walking approx 2.5km three times a week (20 minutes per session), I also ride my bike 40 minutes a day to work. I think I eat quite healthy. I'll start the day with a freshly squeezed juice, maybe have a white coffee at morning tea, and eat a salad or soup for lunch and eat what my wife puts on the table for dinner - usually, meat and three veg - she's a bit of a hippy so I believe I eat well.

I've been loosing some weight - but it seems very slow, maybe 1kg per month. More recently I've been doing my run/walk everyday - and I've had better results, but it's been a bit of a hard slog. I also go for a surf maybe once a fortnight, I'd surf more often but conditions are not always what I want. I refuse to go to the gym as I don't believe I need to go to an institution to get fit, and would prefer some home grown techniques to achieve my goal.

I guess there are a few other seabreezers like me. Does anyone have any other tips or tricks that I can do that will get me into shape a little faster, without adjusting my lifestyle too drastically.

I'm in your same situation.

I'm your weight... 182cm (I used to be 185).
I'm ~10 years younger.
I drink 2-3 bottles + 1/2 bottle of single malt a week.
I cycle 6kms to work when it's not raining, and not late, and not hot, and not...

Other than that I don't do anything apart from kiting... this season's be pretty bad so I'm carrying a lot of weight in to winter.

I used to do Brazilian Jui Jitsu (BJJ), 4x a week and that kept me pretty fit... but 4 years ago I messed up and kind of crippled myself... so BJJ is out.
After my injury I lost 23kgs in 8 weeks... when I stopped the pain medication it came back.

So last month I started looking around for a weight GYM... but I couldn't bring myself to do it.
So then I figured maybe boxing, but there's nothing around me... but google showed me a link to a Muay Thai place... then I was picking up some karate pants (excellent pyjamas), and talking to the guy there and he said I should give it a go cos it's proper Muay Thai that isn't like standard cardio BS but mostly sparring.

Cardio kills me, I can manage ~2 mins running... but fighting makes me forget about being tired and concentrate on winning (not being hurt).
As you can imagine somebody with poor stamina didn't win many long bjj fights... so if I didn't get a tap out in <2 mins, I'd lose.

It would be ideal if I could lose weight playing Battlefield 3, or writing BS here [}:)]

Anyway Thai boxing, and cycling there is my winter plan.


Then I'm gona go looking for that postie
evlPanda
evlPanda
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9 Apr 2012 1:08am
^ That's anyone that ****s with me and stands perfectly still and doesn't punch back.
...and I think I'll just stick to the bags/not progress to fighting. : o

Yeah the alcohol...

I'm starting to reallly go off it. My flat mate has never drunk, Muslim, and his comments like "why do you want to turn into a dickhead and feel sick?" have hit a chord with me.

At first I tried to explain that being drunk isn't anything like that, but as I live in the city 5 nights/week I noticed that, to my horror, that is actually exactly what it is like. Spend one night as a designated driver or similar and you'll see what I mean. I guess I have just become so accustomed to it I didn't see it.
Search youtube for 'drunk'.

I did a dry February and while the first two weeks were really hard by the fourth I was actually a little sad about going back to drinking twice a week again, with the occasional binge. So I haven't exactly. For sure I liked my first wine, but not as much as I did before my dry month, and I don't think I'll ever enjoy it as much again.

Without even trying I don't drink more than a glass to go with my meal. Drunk me is not the person I really want to be any more.
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
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9 Apr 2012 1:15am
evlPanda said...

Yeah the alcohol...

I'm starting to reallly go off it. My flat mate has never drunk, Muslim, and his comments like "why do you want to turn into a dickhead and feel sick?" have hit a chord with me.


Balvenie 12yo tastes great to me, nice, smooth, warming, sweet, no hangover... good sh!t.

I think my main source of obesity is my wife... I'm convinced she's trying to kill me... and she's a part time Pilates/Calanetics teacher!
pierrec45
pierrec45
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9 Apr 2012 2:29am
I eat healthy snacks abour 30 minutes before supper.
Esp. when I'm the one doing the cooking.

Like an apple, a carrot, some cheese. Large portions too.
When comes time for the real meal, I'm less hungry and eat less.

Sleep like a baby, never stuffy.
Don't know if what I'm doing is healthy, but seems to work...
Chilla
Chilla
WA
136 posts
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9 Apr 2012 6:40am
adolf said...

I do feel that the exercise I do may cancel out the wine I enjoy drinking on the weekend. The other thing I'v noticed since running/walking is that I'm feeling very stiff in the mornings, which kind of worries me. I'm ok about 20 minutes later - but it's something new that I'm a little concerned about.

As I've got older my metabolism has become messed up and I'd love to get that working better.


The stiff feeling is pretty normal, it comes about due to age, tiny tears in muscle tissues (you have to break them down to build them up) and other factors such as lactic acid build up when you exercise etc. cooling down for longer and some stretching may help. Again the key to keeping it progressing and keeping your metabolism ticking is to keep mixing things up.....smaller more regular meals and a varied exercise routine keeps your body ticking over, stops it from becoming too efficient and thus less effective at what your trying to do, if that makes sense? I used to run regular 80km a week, eventually just plateaued, now run 15km, windsurf, swim, bike ride, surf, do weights, walk a lot more, can eat like a horse (seriously don't even have to think about what I put in my mouth anymore....am loving Easter!!) and am in better shape and dropping more weight, developing more muscle then before....
stuk
stuk
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9 Apr 2012 10:17am
There is a govermnent health initiative on the tv at the moment, asking people to become a swapper, that is swap large portions for smaller portions.

I guess the message is, all things in moderation
GreenGriff
GreenGriff
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9 Apr 2012 9:47am
just a theory but i think the evening meal is the worst
Just for me if i have a big meal at nite then sit down tv computer bed etc.. all that energy from that meal is converted to fat as its not used.
if however you have your main meal at breakfast /lunch the energy from that meal is used immediately thru work during the day
newguy
newguy
654 posts
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9 Apr 2012 8:44am
Some little tips:
Keep pushing yourself when you are exercising so a bit longer each week for the runs or pushing yourself. Energy in = Energy out. So you can become stagnant and improvements plateau if you're just maintaining your exercise and diet.

If you are feeling stiff, do some stretches to improve your flexibility. It may not help with the delayed onset muscle soreness but will help none the less

As one of the others said, losing weight slowly is better than fast. Look on tv, all those people on the weightloss shows pack it all back once they're out in the real world. Your body needs to slowly adjust inorder to maintain the weightloss physiologically not to mention mentally too.

In terms of your office job, you could grab a fit ball and sit on that? Works your core muscles and improves your balance too.
FlySurfer
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9 Apr 2012 10:50am
GreenGriff said...

just a theory but i think the evening meal is the worst
Just for me if i have a big meal at nite then sit down tv computer bed etc.. all that energy from that meal is converted to fat as its not used.
if however you have your main meal at breakfast /lunch the energy from that meal is used immediately thru work during the day


Food makes me tired... I don't eat big lunch cos I feel like a siesta after. I notice wildlife after eating get a little frisky then go to sleep.

I have a 4 shot latte, with a slice of banana bread for bf at 10:00
No lunch, or something small.
Big dinner at 22:00.

But I'm 12kgs over weight

FYI The Longevity Project: www.nytimes.com/2011/04/19/science/19longevity_excerpt.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print
Subsonic
Subsonic
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9 Apr 2012 8:53am
What Mark and Greengriff said, I reckon. Eat less at evening meals, cut down on the alcohol a far bit more (Im not sure what kind of effect alcohol has on actual weight loss, but it cant be good to drink that much that quick.

Like Mark said, sounds like you're already doing great.
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