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Simondo
Simondo
VIC
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VIC, 8025 posts
5 Sep 2011 5:47pm
I tried ringing AGL, but gave up. Figured this next question could go through to a 22 year old Admin Person anyway, and not a Gas Installer with good general knowledge on gas...

Question;
There is a bit of a gassy smell around my gas meter some days. Some days I can smell it at 2-3 metres away. I know there is a regulator, and a little bit of gas might vent through that.... But is it normal or unusual to smell gas at 2-3m away from the gas meter/regulator....???

Today, there seems to be no smell.... But I did have a 2 hour surf, plus I've just cracked my 2nd stubby.... Should that effect my smell?
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
5 Sep 2011 3:59pm
My Mum & Dads meter always smelled a bit gassy, when you were right next to it but never had a problem with it.
The one at my place seems to be fine.
stamp
stamp
QLD
2797 posts
QLD, 2797 posts
5 Sep 2011 6:05pm
make up a soapy solution and spray it over all the fittings and connections. if there's a leak the soap will bubble
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
5 Sep 2011 4:10pm
Wait for night time and go with a lit candle, move the candle around the gas meter. If you see a big blue flame and can smell the stench of burnt hair it means that you have a gas leak!
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
5 Sep 2011 4:25pm
Cut down on the beans bud.
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
5 Sep 2011 4:29pm
Bad advice felix.

The gas is odorless what you are smelling is an additive to the gas to (surprisingly) make it easy for detection. The best way as mentioned before is to spray soapy water to the regulator to a possible leak from the fittings.

Correct me if im wrong but i don't think a regulator should be dumping to atmosphere. We sometimes have problems with pneumatic regulators If it gets turned of and turned back on slowly some of the seals in the reg fail to seat properly. causing a leak.

All suggestions aside mate i think if you are worried there is a gas leak you will need to contact someone with a gas license He/she will check out the system pressure test it and sign the test/maintenance work carried out off
do not touch it yourself.


What types of gasfitting licences are issued?

Class G - Covers all gasfitting work except gasfitting work classified as of Class I, E, or P. [Includes general gasfitting - Natural Gas, LP Gas or mixed gases. Also includes installation and servicing of Domestic, Commercial, Caravan and Marine craft installations]
Class I - Covers gasfitting work on a consumer's gas installation associated with a Type B appliance [Industrial - including all Type B appliances - installation, commissioning and servicing]; or on piping that has an operating pressure of more than 200 kPa, not being gasfitting work referred to in paragraph (a) or classified as Class E or P.
Class E - Covers gasfitting work associated with a mobile engine.
Class P - Covers gasfitting work on a gas installation associated with the storage and dispensing of gas for the refuelling of a motor vehicle as defined in section 5 of the Road Traffic Act 1974.

Classes may be restricted e.g. Installation only, Commissioning Type B appliances up to 1,000 MJ/h

In Western Australia, there are over 6,000 licensed gas fitters. Suitably qualified gas fitters hold a Permit, Certificate of Competence or, in some cases, a Gasfitting Authorisation.

Permits and Certificates can be restricted to installing and/or servicing of Natural and/or Liquefied Petroleum Gas.

Western Australian gasfitting permits are generally in the form of a yellow (buff for apprentices) plastic card style registration. There are no cards for authorisation holders.
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
5 Sep 2011 4:32pm
A good reason why you don't fiddle with your gas metre

laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
5 Sep 2011 7:36pm
simondo, as mentioned, a odour is added so you can smell it and if you can smell it you have a leak. you don't need soapy water, you need a lic gas fitter or the local authority.
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
5 Sep 2011 8:29pm
Thanks guys. I will get onto AGL tomorrow.
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
NSW, 2568 posts
7 Sep 2011 11:11am
wish i saw this 1 earlier.
i am a gas fitter, and heres what u do.
call a gas fitter.
they will diagnose the problem - either the vent on the regulator is venting gas due to a faulty diaghram,
or
a screwed connection is loose, rubber seal perished, a seal on a device is damaged, or (not likely) a hole in a pipe.
more often than not its a simple solution and theres no need to worry about $$, and keep in mind there is every chance you are paying to keep the leak going if it is down stream of the meter.
please dont **** around with the gas stuff. it gets ugly.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23651 posts
WA, 23651 posts
7 Sep 2011 12:51pm
Unless you live in the bush and use bottle gas

Then a smell is normal and means the cylinder is a bee's d1ck away from being empty
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
30 Sep 2011 3:25pm
Just did the soap spray. There is a leak at the regulator, before it gets to my meter. I will let them know!
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
30 Sep 2011 7:18pm
Once I got through to the correct department. The leak was fixed within 2 hours... Hats off, well done boys! The young bloke was even a Cats supporter !! Go Cats !!
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
NSW, 2568 posts
30 Sep 2011 7:36pm
sweeeeeeeeet.
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
30 Sep 2011 7:44pm
Only 3 weeks to work it out? Wow, you move fast!
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
30 Sep 2011 5:55pm
Sailhack said...

Only 3 weeks to work it out? Wow, you move fast!


Too busy surfing the grommet
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
30 Sep 2011 9:46pm
Thanks Doggie!

Yeah, we had a nice run of swell actually, plus busy watching the Cats win Finals Footy !!

Minor gas leak was WAY down the list !

The list;
Surf
Footy
Earn some money for the family
Earn some money for the next surfboard
Muck about with son
Keep the wife happy
Take the dog for a walk
Surf
Stand Up Paddle
Take some cheques to the bank
Cash out
Get Grand Final Tickets (GO CATS!)
Get some beer
Put beer in fridge
Take a board into local glasser for minor repair
Drink some beer
Seabreeze
Call Mac
Check the surf
Eat some pistachio nuts
Put some salmon in the oven
Eat salmon
Sort out gas smell near meter....


^^ Salmon recipe;
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/Salmon-a-la-SUP/
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
NSW, 2568 posts
30 Sep 2011 10:27pm
well at least the priorities are right
BulldogPup
BulldogPup
6657 posts
6657 posts
2 Oct 2011 12:44am
Glad to see you got the Gassssss drama solvered Simo ..... but how in the Big Swell Water God's sake did or do you get away with keepin' the other half at 6th place in the "priority list" ?????
My ex-GF had to be 1st , 2nd , 3rd , 4th was appearing to be orgasmic during the weekly skirt 'n shirt bargain hunt , 6th , (5th was staying home when her old dragon was over for my weekly oral flogging - but at least then I could get on the turps out in me garage with her dad Arthur who was eternally grateful for me shaggin' his daughter and has been in the dogbox for 40 years the poor old codger , we still catch up for a clandestine shandy or thrice by the way .... he's a good old broken shackled bloke) and you don't want to know what 7th - 10th involved - it's pure evil to man's natural pride ......
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
2 Oct 2011 4:45am
Simondo said...

I tried ringing AGL, but gave up. Figured this next question could go through to a 22 year old Admin Person anyway...

And who might be in God-knows-what-country, no? All outsourced?
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
NSW, 2568 posts
2 Oct 2011 11:31am
BulldogPup said...

Glad to see you got the Gassssss drama solvered Simo ..... but how in the Big Swell Water God's sake did or do you get away with keepin' the other half at 6th place in the "priority list" ?????
My ex-GF had to be 1st , 2nd , 3rd , 4th was appearing to be orgasmic during the weekly skirt 'n shirt bargain hunt , 6th , (5th was staying home when her old dragon was over for my weekly oral flogging - but at least then I could get on the turps out in me garage with her dad Arthur who was eternally grateful for me shaggin' his daughter and has been in the dogbox for 40 years the poor old codger , we still catch up for a clandestine shandy or thrice by the way .... he's a good old broken shackled bloke) and you don't want to know what 7th - 10th involved - it's pure evil to man's natural pride ......




struth! my mrs deserves a medal then!!!
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
2 Oct 2011 12:14pm
^ Yes, struth! Ditto, my Mrs deserves a medal also!
BulldogPup
BulldogPup
6657 posts
6657 posts
2 Oct 2011 8:27pm
Struth - yes said that many times I did ..... selected a shocker i did (and the ex-GF & her old dragon were bloody WCE fanatics which naturally peeved this pup no end) .... thank the water gods I had a half decent "mancave" to recluse in - ah yes that old couch/settee had my hairy bum plonked in it a few wintry nights , me and a mate Richo got plastered in there numerous times whilst firmly in GF purgatory and bonkless misery - isn't it marvellous what numerous shandys and an undying sense of humour can fix!
You two posters above this pup are indeed lucky fellows by all indications.
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