Dual cab 4WD

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NewScotty
NewScotty
2350 posts
2350 posts
11 Feb 2017 10:17am
Initially, Toyota Hilux was a no brainer for me as I love Toyota's reliability. I've got a 98 & 01 Hiace and both going strong.
Now I'm leaning towards a Ford Ranger (Wildtrack or Special edition).

Anybody own either of these ?
Your thoughts ?
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
11 Feb 2017 10:49am
One major mining company in WA terminated agreement on that brand of vehicle due to reliability issues.
Not sure if the product has overcome the problems. Concerns with fuel systems ability to withstand extreme use was one issue I was aware of.
gavnwend
gavnwend
WA
1374 posts
WA, 1374 posts
11 Feb 2017 10:54am
Ford ranger overpriced.the newer ones because of the stringent emissions laws are not as good as the post 2014 models ( diesil models).
Zuke
Zuke
901 posts
901 posts
11 Feb 2017 10:56am
This is worth a look if you're considering a Hilux.

jacko
jacko
WA
89 posts
WA, 89 posts
11 Feb 2017 11:04am
oh....what a feeling!
Gazuki
Gazuki
WA
1363 posts
WA, 1363 posts
11 Feb 2017 1:18pm
That actually makes me want to buy one so I can hoon around the streets trying to pop it up on two wheels for my mates!
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
11 Feb 2017 5:34pm
Zuke said..
This is worth a look if you're considering a Hilux.



now weve seen a good test to see which 4 door has a strong enough chassis to last 300,000kms on our crappy roads and coregations. that stiff chassis is why you buy a hilux. when i was working in mines and explooration we called them rolux's as they would go and go until the day somebody drove it like a twit. then we'd save the driveline for the ones that simply rusted through
thedrip
thedrip
WA
2355 posts
WA, 2355 posts
11 Feb 2017 6:02pm
landyacht said..

Zuke said..
This is worth a look if you're considering a Hilux.




now weve seen a good test to see which 4 door has a strong enough chassis to last 300,000kms on our crappy roads and coregations. that stiff chassis is why you buy a hilux. when i was working in mines and explooration we called them rolux's as they would go and go until the day somebody drove it like a twit. then we'd save the driveline for the ones that simply rusted through


Was it a test of an Isuzu or Isuzu made Rodeo/Colorado? ??

They crap all over Hiluxes which have gutless engines and weak gearboxes.
Zuke
Zuke
901 posts
901 posts
11 Feb 2017 8:00pm
landyacht said..



Zuke said..
This is worth a look if you're considering a Hilux.






now weve seen a good test to see which 4 door has a strong enough chassis to last 300,000kms on our crappy roads and coregations. that stiff chassis is why you buy a hilux. when i was working in mines and explooration we called them rolux's as they would go and go until the day somebody drove it like a twit. then we'd save the driveline for the ones that simply rusted through




It's not the chassis strength that's making it fail the moose test. It's the electronic safety aids like stability control that's not doing it's job to prevent the Hilux from losing control.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
11 Feb 2017 8:24pm
The rangers and bt50 Mazda exact same bus were raved over but are now showing plenty of faults
ive had hilux,s and I'm on my second triton, hand on heart I've been wrapped with their all round ability
and reliability, the new model is very refined for the price, I use it for trade and rec use pulling my boat into remote spots, never let me down both models to date, certainly worth a trial
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
12 Feb 2017 8:35am
thedrip said..


landyacht said..



Zuke said..
This is worth a look if you're considering a Hilux.






now weve seen a good test to see which 4 door has a strong enough chassis to last 300,000kms on our crappy roads and coregations. that stiff chassis is why you buy a hilux. when i was working in mines and explooration we called them rolux's as they would go and go until the day somebody drove it like a twit. then we'd save the driveline for the ones that simply rusted through




Was it a test of an Isuzu or Isuzu made Rodeo/Colorado? ??

They crap all over Hiluxes which have gutless engines and weak gearboxes.



Agree with the sentiment gutless engine. Despite all the hype from sales reps, reducing an engine volume, making it bang harder to achieve the same or better outcome just reduces longevity. End result, users chip the hell out of them, and further reduces engine life.

My answer to sales rep who near on had me sold on latest model, Yeer, Narrrr
Particular interest was the lightning snap up of the older engine version models. End users quickly worked out which is/was better
MDSXR6T
MDSXR6T
WA
1019 posts
WA, 1019 posts
12 Feb 2017 9:37am
cauncy said..
The rangers and bt50 Mazda exact same bus were raved over but are now showing plenty of faults
ive had hilux,s and I'm on my second triton, hand on heart I've been wrapped with their all round ability
and reliability, the new model is very refined for the price, I use it for trade and rec use pulling my boat into remote spots, never let me down both models to date, certainly worth a trial


Agreed. The triton will do everything all the other DC 4wds do for 20-30k cheaper and are still worth the same after 5 years or get a new 70 series L/C and do it properly. Ford and holden just don't have the same build quality as the other manufactures these days.

Even then, on a 90k 4wd ute, Toyota failed to address the elephant in the room with its wheel track being out.
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6158 posts
QLD, 6158 posts
13 Feb 2017 7:56am
Ive got a Colorado but the older type same as dmax. Its been great. I'll either get another dmax or a triton. Tritons 8k cheaper.
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6158 posts
QLD, 6158 posts
14 Feb 2017 3:47pm
Dmax engine has the longest mean time between failure. Theres actually a rating they build the engines to. Understressed truck engine. Tows exceptionally well (better than on paper). All the other fruit not as good. But reliability important to me
Ian K
Ian K
WA
4169 posts
WA, 4169 posts
14 Feb 2017 3:15pm
myusernam said..
Dmax engine has the longest mean time between failure. Theres actually a rating they build the engines to. Understressed truck engine. Tows exceptionally well (better than on paper). All the other fruit not as good. But reliability important to me





N-series truck has the same motor apparently. But why does every practical vehicle have a diesel engine these day? Aren't the smelly old things falling out of favour in overseas markets?

Just looked it up, you can get a hiLux 2wd in petrol. Maybe, being lower to the ground, it'll pass the moose test. Who needs 4wd anyway? A good driver doesn't. When I was a boy there was no such thing.

firiebob
firiebob
WA
3182 posts
WA, 3182 posts
14 Feb 2017 8:13pm
Ian K said..

Who needs 4wd anyway? A good driver doesn't. When I was a boy there was no such thing.


I think they're bogged
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23646 posts
WA, 23646 posts
15 Feb 2017 7:05am
landyacht said..

Zuke said..
This is worth a look if you're considering a Hilux.




now weve seen a good test to see which 4 door has a strong enough chassis to last 300,000kms on our crappy roads and coregations. that stiff chassis is why you buy a hilux. when i was working in mines and explooration we called them rolux's as they would go and go until the day somebody drove it like a twit. then we'd save the driveline for the ones that simply rusted through


I agree
It is unfair to say that the Hilux is bad, essentially as some other DC4wd's have more car-like handling and do better on the test
On that test there is a range of results from a Zonda or Mclaren, thru to say a top loaded Unimog.
It probably is simply stiffer chassis, anyone who has ever jacked up one corner of a race car will know that.


PS I'm not a DC fan, not a Hilux fan. Just think it is a bit rich.
actiomax
actiomax
NSW
1576 posts
NSW, 1576 posts
15 Feb 2017 6:15pm
I did once see a xb ute with a 9 inch do a hill climb a hilux 4wd couldnt get up but to be fair the hilux had bald tyres &it just couldnt get the run up take off speed the 351 did .
I think it is about the driver a lot of the time.
Who has the biggest balls.
Surfer62
Surfer62
1357 posts
1357 posts
29 Aug 2017 6:49am
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
29 Aug 2017 8:33am
Surfer62 said..


That's a fun video, but it doesn't really show anything apart from driver skill, and which car is heavier.
Grevas
Grevas
147 posts
147 posts
29 Aug 2017 10:48am
I've got a Ranger work ute and hilux personal ute. Ranger tows better and uses less fuel, Hilux is better in sand and handles better on road and off.
Both new models FYI.
Shifu
Shifu
QLD
1997 posts
QLD, 1997 posts
29 Aug 2017 4:53pm
Great Wall. Sorted.
Beaglebuddy
Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
1595 posts
29 Aug 2017 4:57pm
This is a real full sized truck, 420 HP. Too bad you blokes can't get these.
Buster fin
Buster fin
WA
2598 posts
WA, 2598 posts
29 Aug 2017 6:10pm
^^^^Yee harrr!!!
sn
sn
WA
2775 posts
sn sn
WA, 2775 posts
29 Aug 2017 7:17pm
dunno.......some silly clown put the steering wheel on the wrong side!!
Ian K
Ian K
WA
4169 posts
WA, 4169 posts
29 Aug 2017 8:06pm
https://www.american.com.au/listings/2017-new-chevrolet-silverado-ltz-2500hd-crew-cab-turbo-diesel-v8-4x4/

Brand new $140,990 RHD ( Why you'd get one I don't know but available off the shelf in Oz if you really want one)





cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
29 Aug 2017 8:28pm
Why bother
crap 4wd capability
horendouse fuel economy
crazy maintenance costs
you need stepladders to utilities the tray
and you look a cockhead driving one
mazdon
mazdon
1199 posts
1199 posts
29 Aug 2017 8:34pm
No clearance if you do take it somewhere worth 4wding either

it screams "look at me... I'm a wannabe American douche"

It takes all sorts though, so god bless America
thedrip
thedrip
WA
2355 posts
WA, 2355 posts
29 Aug 2017 9:15pm
And they don't fit our landcruiser sized tracks so cornering can off road can be an issue.

And the paint job quickly gets scratched to the outhouse.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
29 Aug 2017 11:44pm
Why does every young ass dickwit want to drive a big ass black dual cab 4wd these days??

Just another ego wank.
MDSXR6T
MDSXR6T
WA
1019 posts
WA, 1019 posts
29 Aug 2017 10:12pm
cauncy said..
Why bother
crap 4wd capability
horendouse fuel economy
crazy maintenance costs
you need stepladders to utilities the tray
and you look a cockhead driving one


No to mention it looks like bloody brick and then there is the issue with those stupidly small tyres.

I'd be all for driving a massive ute around but not that one.


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