Maybe as the years have passed, my memory of the life of a car has changed however it was not uncommon to have a car that lived well into its 300 000+kms, before any major mechanical issues arose. In those days cars rusted out before they wore out.

Before buying this vehicle I did my research and spent a fair bit of money. Currently my newish car which now has 120 000kms has and has had issues I wouldn't expect. I dont thrash my car and service it as expected however the issues that are occuring I am being told are "common" with this car.

Having had a gutfull of this "built to last" vehicle I am sad to take the necessary actions and to sell it. The car - current model Hilux Dual Cab Diesel 4WD. Bought it as it suited my lifestyle with the tray at back and the 4WD. Could be a Friday built vehicle, however when chatting to a number of mechanics the issues seem to extremely common with this extremely common and overpriced vehicle with very expensive parts. While at the mechanic he said he just repaired his as the injectors were stuffed and his had only done 60 000km's. While there another person rang him to ask about his issues with the vehicle.

I was seriously hoping to have this vehicle for a long time, till it was seriously outdated. Even Jeremy and James rated this vehicle seriously tough. What a load of **. May be tough and reliable for the first 80 000km's then the issues arise.

Anyway, is this fairly standard for most vehicles out there or are there any truly decent vehicles that are built to last out there? If so keen to get other peoples views and experiences of their vehicles so I know what to keep away from and what to look for.

shi thouse said...

Maybe as the years have passed, my memory of the life of a car has changed however it was not uncommon to have a car that lived well into its 300 000+kms, before any major mechanical issues arose. In those days cars rusted out before they wore out.

Before buying this vehicle I did my research and spent a fair bit of money. Currently my newish car which now has 120 000kms has and has had issues I wouldn't expect. I dont thrash my car and service it as expected however the issues that are occuring I am being told are "common" with this car.

Having had a gutfull of this "built to last" vehicle I am sad to take the necessary actions and to sell it. The car - current model Hilux Dual Cab Diesel 4WD. Bought it as it suited my lifestyle with the tray at back and the 4WD. Could be a Friday built vehicle, however when chatting to a number of mechanics the issues seem to extremely common with this extremely common and overpriced vehicle with very expensive parts. While at the mechanic he said he just repaired his as the injectors were stuffed and his had only done 60 000km's. While there another person rang him to ask about his issues with the vehicle.

I was seriously hoping to have this vehicle for a long time, till it was seriously outdated. Even Jeremy and James rated this vehicle seriously tough. What a load of **. May be tough and reliable for the first 80 000km's then the issues arise.

Anyway, is this fairly standard for most vehicles out there or are there any truly decent vehicles that are built to last out there? If so keen to get other peoples views and experiences of their vehicles so I know what to keep away from and what to look for.

A reasonable assumption in regards to vehicles you mention run for X period and don't fail, however the same size/sort nowadays, give far less reliability and have a very short service life.
What has happened in development is, that there have been leaps forward in engine/powertrain cyclic loads. Fuel systems that develop far more Kw or HP that impacts the vehicles service life all this out of the same size engine through the same size drive line.
To put this into perspective, my 100 series 1HZ engine only develops mid 74 kw range. My fuel burn rate is well above any new diesel engines, but the new engines develop far more kw/HP
I looked at a test Ford Ranger yesterday, 5 cylinder turbo common fuel rail that develops 150+kw.
There is no way that vehicle will make the same k's as my 100 series will, but its flash as with lots of extras, low fuel burn and lots of grunt.
Price we pay for progress I reckon.

A reasonable assumption in regards to vehicles you mention run for X period and don't fail, however the same size/sort nowadays, give far less reliability and have a very short service life.
What has happened in development is, that there have been leaps forward in engine/powertrain cyclic loads. Fuel systems that develop far more Kw or HP that impacts the vehicles service life all this out of the same size engine through the same size drive line.
To put this into perspective, my 100 series 1HZ engine only develops mid 74 kw range. My fuel burn rate is well above any new diesel engines, but the new engines develop far more kw/HP
I looked at a test Ford Ranger yesterday, 5 cylinder turbo common fuel rail that develops 150+kw.
There is no way that vehicle will make the same k's as my 100 series will, but its flash as with lots of extras, low fuel burn and lots of grunt.
Price we pay for progress I reckon.

Absolutely, getting ridiculous amounts of power from a small engine seems to be the go. Mechanic was saying about 2000psi of pressure is created to enable this power to be generated by the engine. Somethings got to give.

Had a 100 series as well with 4.5 litre engine. Very reliable and had no issues for years. Petrol, unfortunately, was its best friend.

shi thouse said...
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Having had a gutfull of this "built to last" vehicle I am sad to take the necessary actions and to sell it. The car - current model Hilux Dual Cab Diesel 4WD. Bought it as it suited my lifestyle with the tray at back and the 4WD. Could be a Friday built vehicle, however when chatting to a number of mechanics the issues seem to extremely common with this extremely common and overpriced vehicle with very expensive parts. While at the mechanic he said he just repaired his as the injectors were stuffed and his had only done 60 000km's. While there another person rang him to ask about his issues with the vehicle.

1kd motor? Injector knock?

Woodo said...

Holden Astra.
Biggest pieces of poo.

holden viva.

anything holden.

shi thouse said...

Woodo said...

shi thouse said...
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Having had a gutfull of this "built to last" vehicle I am sad to take the necessary actions and to sell it. The car - current model Hilux Dual Cab Diesel 4WD. Bought it as it suited my lifestyle with the tray at back and the 4WD. Could be a Friday built vehicle, however when chatting to a number of mechanics the issues seem to extremely common with this extremely common and overpriced vehicle with very expensive parts. While at the mechanic he said he just repaired his as the injectors were stuffed and his had only done 60 000km's. While there another person rang him to ask about his issues with the vehicle.

1kd motor? Injector knock?

Good guess!

Have you had your ECU reflashed?
(Computer reprogramed)

I'm not really a car person. I just like them to run and not cost too much.

About 5 years ago I lashed out after having numerous **** cars and bought myself a 2001 BMW 530i It's still a beautiful car. I was about to sell it last year and buy something else and spent $5K on it getting all the dents out a respray and some minor electronic things. When I got it back I couldn't part with it.

The **** cars I've had are:

Toyota Celica
Ford Cortina
Ford Capri
Ford XD
Mercedes 230e

Carantoc said...


Need I say more

Oil change?

What d'ya mean ??

Oh the smoke ?

No, that was just a small issue with a 'cheech special' we had going at the time. Long story, and I don't remember much of it for some reason. Wow, look at the colour of the flowers man.... why can't horses talk ?

95 subaru liberty .. just this arvo i had a bit of a rally in the bush bottomed out so many times even pushed over a couple of small trees(bushes)...345,000 kms.. bullet proof

kia rio

elizabethb said...

02 Nissan X-Trail - Been amazingly perfect, spacious and always run well! ( Although that's due to a service from my great mechanic)

Husband says anything Jap import because they make them well with high standards . i.e Even Suzuki Swift old school (95) are good, with small engine and good fuel

You got married, when did that happen.
Owyagoin anyway.
Did you ever sell that bloody Gath helmet

mineral1 said...

elizabethb said...

02 Nissan X-Trail - Been amazingly perfect, spacious and always run well! ( Although that's due to a service from my great mechanic)

Husband says anything Jap import because they make them well with high standards . i.e Even Suzuki Swift old school (95) are good, with small engine and good fuel

You got married, when did that happen.
Owyagoin anyway.
Did you ever sell that bloody Gath helmet

Married last Saturday Going swimmingly thanks; works not-tooooooo-bad, have a house to keep me busy now That's my favourite part; renovating.

Totally forgot about that Gath lol; brings back some memories (of not being used). Was hard to get rid of lol.

I rarely pop in here; my monthly catch up lol

Ted the Kiwi said...

(plus a new wooden seat cover this week)

That could be a bit hard on the backside

Some of the best cars I have owned:

1. 1992 Suzuki Sierra (unstoppable)
2. 1990 Mitsubishi Magna (boring but so reliable)
3. HJ 47 Troopie wagon. best offroad vehicle i have ever owned bar none.
4. Current owner of 2006 Pajero wagon. so far so good.

worst car:

1. Landrover Discovery Series 2. bought for $37,000 in 2005 with 70 000km and sold in 2010 with 140 000 km for $8,500.
My mechanic was very sad when I sold that car. He never did get to put in the swimming pool

Woodo said...

shi thouse said...

Woodo said...

shi thouse said...
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Having had a gutfull of this "built to last" vehicle I am sad to take the necessary actions and to sell it. The car - current model Hilux Dual Cab Diesel 4WD. Bought it as it suited my lifestyle with the tray at back and the 4WD. Could be a Friday built vehicle, however when chatting to a number of mechanics the issues seem to extremely common with this extremely common and overpriced vehicle with very expensive parts. While at the mechanic he said he just repaired his as the injectors were stuffed and his had only done 60 000km's. While there another person rang him to ask about his issues with the vehicle.

1kd motor? Injector knock?

Good guess!

Have you had your ECU reflashed?
(Computer reprogramed)

Not too sure what is called that they are doing but something to do with the injectors without having to replace them (around $2600 for replacement).