When I was a kid it was a big deal, then it went off for a while, then it became a big deal again and now some people boo it.
Is it the welcome to country stuff? I don't get it, I'm probably getting old and not up with these things.
W^nkers
Its like booing at a funeral.
Regardless of what one thinks of war, or current wars in particular, to do that when people are mourning their dead is a disgrace. Even more of a disgrace when one enjoys the privileges of our current society that are in part due to those dead folks.
If they're booing at only the Welcome to Country welllll I don't like the statement but they should shut up and debate the semantics of welcome to country some other place.
Anti woke one nation voters against welcome to country. Barnaby would have been proud of the boo'ers.
Well then what of the aborigines who don't like it - as its used completely out of context and white folks making a populist virtue-signalling thing out of it, devalues their culture rather than supports it? That's not an uncommon view amongst the indigenous.
But ANZAC day is not the place.
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W^nkers
Its like booing at a funeral.
Regardless of what one thinks of war, or current wars in particular, to do that when people are mourning their dead is a disgrace. Even more of a disgrace when one enjoys the privileges of our current society that are in part due to those dead folks.
If they're booing at only the Welcome to Country welllll I don't like the statement but they should shut up and debate the semantics of welcome to country some other place.Select to expand quoteMark _australia said..
Well then what of the aborigines who don't like it - as its used completely out of context and white folks making a populist virtue-signalling thing out of it, devalues their culture rather than supports it? That's not an uncommon view amongst the indigenous.
But ANZAC day is not the place.
Bipolar response
The welcome to country ceremony maybe is a bit over used at some privately funded events and gatherings, but I would argue that it is appropriate and should be part of the Anzac day dawn ceremony.
If some people are booing that, I think it is very disappointing. and disrespectful to our first nation people.
Whoever is doing it, I fail to see how it would possibly help their cause and question their motives for attending the Anzac day dawn services.
I don't know what those people were booing, and they likely shouldn't have been booing, but there's good reason to have highly mixed feelings about Anzac Day. We're conditioned to unquestioningly support the "sacred" Anzacs, but you're supporting those who blindly killed for whatever country they happened to live in, right or wrong, because the politicians told them to. That's why humans have wars.
It gets confusing (and the bad guys play on this) because decent people rightly think that yes we should feel for those who rationally believed they were on the right side and risked their lives for others, but what about the rest of the Anzacs: racists, rednecks, haters, dumb kids who thought no further than "It'd be fun to shoot a "turban head"" It's saying people should be praised for "Just following orders" which is what the average person does in a war, thinking their country is right purely because it's THEIR country. You can't have a war if both countries are in the right ...
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I don't know what those people were booing, and they likely shouldn't have been booing, but there's good reason to have highly mixed feelings about Anzac Day. We're conditioned to unquestioningly support the "sacred" Anzacs, but you're supporting those who blindly killed for whatever country they happened to live in, right or wrong, because the politicians told them to. That's why humans have wars.
It gets confusing (and the bad guys play on this) because decent people rightly think that yes we should feel for those who rationally believed they were on the right side and risked their lives for others, but what about the rest of the Anzacs: racists, rednecks, haters, dumb kids who thought no further than "It'd be fun to shoot a "turban head"" It's saying people should be praised for "Just following orders" which is what the average person does in a war, thinking their country is right purely because it's THEIR country. You can't have a war if both countries are in the right ...
My daughter is an officer in the Navy, she read the acknowledgment to country at the service yesterday. My son is in the infantry as well and I have a another joining the Navy. None of them want to shoot people but I am sure they would all follow orders and put themselves in harms way to do their duty.
You call serving members and veterans average people at best and haters at worst that blindly kill, maybe you should read John 15:13. Greater love than this has no one, that someone lay down their life for another.
We dont celebrate the killing at Anzac Day we honour the sacrifice.
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They were booing at welcome to country. Not all heros wear capes
Really?
The guy who did it last year was Jacob Hersant, Neo-Nazi.
The folks who did it this year are associated with the "March For Australia" movement, which is linked to and was supported by Neo Nazi groups.
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Bipolar response
How so? All I said is Anzac Day isn't the place. When you said it's obviously only anti-woke One Nation types who hate the welcome to country I corrected you - you're wrong - and again I said 'but Anzac Day isn't the place to debate it by disruption
It's one of those grey areas that's hard to distinguish a line in the sand. Minorities pushing for welcome to/aknowledgement of country (WTC) to be part of every gathering and contained in all government and some private emails etc. While other minorities reject the entire premise of WTC and don't want to see it anywhere.
I'm not really enjoying this idea that every issue needs to be viewed as black and white, I'm quite ok with grey so I guess like most of us I'm bipolar too.
As cammd mentioned Anzac day is a day where we honour the sacrifices made so WTC is appropriate and booing it is a taboo in my book.
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Bipolar response
How so? All I said is Anzac Day isn't the place. When you said it's obviously only anti-woke One Nation types who hate the welcome to country I corrected you - you're wrong - and again I said 'but Anzac Day isn't the place to debate it by disruption
It was a joke about the different responses polar opposites.
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It's ok I just took my lithium
Awesome I hope it helps 
Why is Australia so awful, racist, to the First Nations folks of this land?
What is so hard to understand as to why things take some time to heal after entire cultures, ways of life etc etc were destroyed and attempts still remain to limit its place.
Always was, always will be.
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Why is Australia so awful, racist, to the First Nations folks of this land?
What is so hard to understand as to why things take some time to heal after entire cultures, ways of life etc etc were destroyed and attempts still remain to limit its place.
Always was, always will bePugwash said..
Why is Australia so awful, racist, to the First Nations folks of this land?
What is so hard to understand as to why things take some time to heal after entire cultures, ways of life etc etc were destroyed and attempts still remain to limit its place.
Always was, always will be.
Pfft. What woke absolute bullshxt. Its a guilt industry. 3 percent of the population.
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www.facebook.com/share/v/17f9F6tGkR/
Booooooo
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I think Mark Brown is divisive, when I listen to him I get my back up.
When I to listen Jacinta Nampijimpa Price talk about Aboriginal issues and disadvantage I feel connected and want to contribute to improve outcomes.
I think cammd is divisive, when I listen to him I get my back up.
When I to listen to the pedant, Carantoc, or Formula Nova talk I feel connected and want to contribute to improve outcomes
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www.facebook.com/reel/1490224359126247
On another note, and to pivot away from the Anzac Graves in Gaza.
I was reading on Facebook, so I'm not sure if it's true or not, that the same cancer cells found in Netanyahu's prostrate were found in Trumps mouth. What are the chances of that?
I guess in the war between Seven West Media and Nine Entertainment Co. all our minds are just cannon-fodder.
Perhaps some have been shelled more than others, but they have all been shocked.
Love is wise.
Hatred is foolish.
Everything else is noise. Except the hatred of Collingwood and brussel sprouts.
