American English Grammar and The Queen's Monarchy

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Simondo
Simondo
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13 Sep 2011 11:06pm
Over the years, I've noticed a down hill slide on the quality of spoken English, especially from some American's.

We are guilty too!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English
"Strayan" English, a shortening of the word Australian


With over 1.1M English in the country;
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Australia
I think the English people in Australia will mostly keep The Monarchy in power over Australian Politics. And to be honest, I don't mind having a Queen who can actually boot out a bad Prime Minister. Given that The Queen has only stepped when it was needed... like every 10 to 20 years or so.... Lets face it, The Queen has a reasonable track record over a long period of time, compared to the 15 minutes (12 months, or whatever) that Julia has been at the top (it's a tough job - this is not a Julia bashing session).

I think the referendums on a Monarchy v's a Republic, will continue to be a 50-50 ball game for a while yet, and I would guess that 80-90% of the 1.1M English in Australia hold the balance of power. In reality there is probably another 1.1M kids of English parents, and maybe 60-80% of those would tick "monarchy". I'm guessing that's a 1 in 10 head start for The Monarchy...

For the record, I'll continue to camp out with The Monarchy. I can't see too many advantages of becoming a Republic. And if it's not badly broken, why fix it !
decrepit
decrepit
WA
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WA, 12873 posts
13 Sep 2011 9:31pm
Well I was born in England, (nationalised myself in the mid 60s), but still don't like having a foreigner as head of state.

England's and Australian interests aren't always the same.

Australia has well and truly grown up now, it's time to stand on our own.

The only problem is coming up with a system that has an Australian (born or nationalised, but full time resident) as head of state, that works as well as the current system!

Certainly wouldn't want a clone of the American system.
Scotty88
Scotty88
4214 posts
4214 posts
13 Sep 2011 9:49pm
We don't speak english. We speak Austrayan. Aren't you from Melbun Simondo.
Don't forget Austraya's national capital Canbra.
I am comfortable with the the monarchy (especially Kate's sister).
I just couldn't stand the site of a new flag.
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
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WA, 1227 posts
13 Sep 2011 10:57pm
decrepit said...
The only problem is coming up with a system that has an Australian (born or nationalised, but full time resident) as head of state, that works as well as the current system!

Certainly wouldn't want a clone of the American system.

Agree! However, we don't need to be a republic to dump Lizzy. I've not seen a republican model which is better than what we have - despite the deficiencies in our version of the Westminster system.

Why not just go through our constitution and every where the chain of command reaches Lizzy simply rule a line above the Governor General, so the buck stops there. We get to keep our system (which works better than most) and we get to have our own head of state. I wouldn't even like to change his title, as "President" tends to have a -ve psychological effect on people.

decrepit
decrepit
WA
12873 posts
WA, 12873 posts
13 Sep 2011 11:08pm
Sounds fine to me Dinsdale, I'd need a lot of convincing that something else would be better.
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
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QLD, 6525 posts
14 Sep 2011 7:51am
stamp
stamp
QLD
2797 posts
QLD, 2797 posts
14 Sep 2011 8:38am
Simondo said...

Over the years, I've noticed a down hill slide on the quality of spoken English, especially from some American's.



does that downhill slide include misplaced apostrophes?

Simondo
Simondo
VIC
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VIC, 8025 posts
14 Sep 2011 9:01am
stamp said...

Simondo said...

Over the years, I've noticed a down hill slide on the quality of spoken English, especially from some American's.



does that downhill slide include misplaced apostrophes?




Jam it Stamp !
This is how I would say it...;
Over the years [pause] I've noticed a down hill slide on the quality of spoken English [pause] especially from some American's
And Stamp's a bit of a smart arse [pause] nobody likes a smart arse

But yes, sometimes I whack in too many apostrophes.

nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
14 Sep 2011 7:24am
stamp said...

Simondo said...

Over the years, I've noticed a down hill slide on the quality of spoken English, especially from some American's.



does that downhill slide include misplaced apostrophes?




S'orright Stamp, he might be a greengrocer


FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
14 Sep 2011 9:55am
Fark the queen.
And fark Hussein Obama... "we got to get people working again"
stamp
stamp
QLD
2797 posts
QLD, 2797 posts
14 Sep 2011 10:07am
Simondo said...

stamp said...

Simondo said...

Over the years, I've noticed a down hill slide on the quality of spoken English, especially from some American's.



does that downhill slide include misplaced apostrophes?




Jam it Stamp !
This is how I would say it...;
Over the years [pause] I've noticed a down hill slide on the quality of spoken English [pause] especially from some American's
And Stamp's a bit of a smart arse [pause] nobody likes a smart arse

But yes, sometimes I whack in too many apostrophes.





haha, i have no problem with commas, in fact i think they should be used more. it's apostrophes that show up where they shouldn't that annoy me....but i'm in no position to get on the soapbox- i am too lazy to use capitals on a forum.

(sorry to pick you out simondo; i wouldn't normally speak up, but you did originally post about bad english)
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
14 Sep 2011 10:09am
decrepit said...

Sounds fine to me Dinsdale, I'd need a lot of convincing that something else would be better.


I'll second and third that. Don't muck around with our constitution, just sever the links to the British Monarchy.

Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
14 Sep 2011 1:37pm
I just saw a sticker with the words "f-ck off were full!".

I thought this was very interesting.

Were:

1. Second person singular and plural and first and third person plural past indicative of be.
2. Past subjunctive of be.
SomeOtherGuy
SomeOtherGuy
NSW
807 posts
NSW, 807 posts
14 Sep 2011 4:03pm
Maybe we're not full any more?
sbray
sbray
SA
350 posts
SA, 350 posts
14 Sep 2011 5:29pm
Scotty88 said...

I just couldn't stand the site of a new flag.


Which particular site would you like to sight the flag?

I wasn't sure if you were continuing the bogun english from the previous sentence.


Fossil
Scotty88
Scotty88
4214 posts
4214 posts
14 Sep 2011 4:42pm
sbray said...

Scotty88 said...

I just couldn't stand the site of a new flag.


Which particular site would you like to sight the flag?

I wasn't sure if you were continuing the bogun english from the previous sentence.


Fossil



Shame on me. I'm usually pretty good with my spelling. Can't claim the bogon english thing this time
Little Jon
Little Jon
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2115 posts
NSW, 2115 posts
14 Sep 2011 7:11pm
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