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1 in 8 deaths of young Australians attributable to

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Created by evlPanda > 9 months ago, 20 Nov 2013
evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
20 Nov 2013 11:45AM
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... Alcohol.

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One in eight deaths of Australians aged under 25 is now related to alcohol consumption, a report has revealed.

The Australian National Council on Drugs report (ANCD) also found 60 per cent of all police call outs - up to 90 per cent at night - are alcohol-related.

www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-20/alcohol-to-blame-for-one-in-eight-deaths---report/5102594



WA71
WA, 1382 posts
20 Nov 2013 8:48AM
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Ban it

Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
20 Nov 2013 11:30AM
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Kids are staying at home too long these days is the main problem, they have a surplus of disposable income..... Kids used to move out of home MUCH earlier years ago, meaning they had less disposable income after paying rent / bills etc... (so less to spend on alcohol) .

westozwind
WA, 1416 posts
20 Nov 2013 9:36AM
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Bit like saying a large % of traffic accidents are attributable to speed. If cars did not move, then the accident rate would decrease dramatically.
Where do I get on board to derive funding for such studies?
You can make stats say anything you want if you try hard enough.
Teenagers take risks with or without alcohol. Most of them survive, but a small percentage (tragically) don't.
Been happening for centuries.

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
20 Nov 2013 12:41PM
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Our country has a drinking culture which would be fine.....the only problem is that a large percentage cannot handle their alcohol......

Personally I can drink and drink and drink I will fall asleep before I get stupid.

If you drive through the Melbourne CBD on a Friday or Saturday night you will be shocked at the number of kids ( say under 25 ) throwing up, passed out on the footpath or screaming and yelling abuse, walking on the road or fighting.

stamp
QLD, 2797 posts
20 Nov 2013 11:43AM
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Gizmo said..

Kids are staying at home too long these days is the main problem, they have a surplus of disposable income..... Kids used to move out of home MUCH earlier years ago, meaning they had less disposable income after paying rent / bills etc... (so less to spend on alcohol) .


crap. i always found a way to buy grog & smokes as first priority, even living out of home as a 1st year apprentice. bills, rent, food etc could wait

Poida
WA, 1922 posts
20 Nov 2013 9:51AM
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is two bottles of spirits too much for a 5 day leavers event? thats what the leavers wanted. the adults said one. theres going to be an 18 year old with them from school. the leavers reckon they cant stop you from buying alcohol at leavers if you are 18. most of them are 17 though.

flame suit on

theDoctor
NSW, 5786 posts
20 Nov 2013 12:54PM
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maybe because when we were younger, there was usually only a couple of people maggotedly stupid drunk (usually me) at the party...

now the reason to party is to get stupidly maggotedly drunk...

Woodo
WA, 792 posts
20 Nov 2013 11:35AM
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Poida said..

is two bottles of spirits too much for a 5 day leavers event? thats what the leavers wanted. the adults said one. theres going to be an 18 year old with them from school. the leavers reckon they cant stop you from buying alcohol at leavers if you are 18. most of them are 17 though.

flame suit on


Be lucky if there's any left after the second night.

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
20 Nov 2013 2:43PM
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You can't ban it...young people need to be better educated and that education needs to start and finish with mum and dad...kids with responsible attitudes toward alcohol get it from the parents...take a look at a lot of European countries as examples (not russia)

Woodo
WA, 792 posts
20 Nov 2013 12:01PM
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If I had kids I'd prefer them getting on the p!ss instead of sucking on or whacking up meth...

stuk
NSW, 894 posts
20 Nov 2013 3:05PM
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Seems a big part is the type of alcohol they drink. Recently hosted my daughters 18th birthday party at our home. Rules were they had to stay the night and they all brought tents and when they arrived we confiscated their car keys. But back on point, not one of them brought beer or even wine to drink, it was all either bottles of spirits or premix spirits.

WA71
WA, 1382 posts
20 Nov 2013 12:09PM
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stuk said..

Seems a big part is the type of alcohol they drink. Recently hosted my daughters 18th birthday party at our home. Rules were they had to stay the night and they all brought tents and when they arrived we confiscated their car keys. But back on point, not one of them brought beer or even wine to drink, it was all either bottles of spirits or premix spirits.


Less hangover I think.

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
20 Nov 2013 3:09PM
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stuk said..

Seems a big part is the type of alcohol they drink. Recently hosted my daughters 18th birthday party at our home. Rules were they had to stay the night and they all brought tents and when they arrived we confiscated their car keys. But back on point, not one of them brought beer or even wine to drink, it was all either bottles of spirits or premix spirits.


Good point bro...spirits are some high octane **** when your 17 or 18..mix 'em with energy drinks and its even worse

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
20 Nov 2013 12:38PM
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WA71 said..

Ban it


Ban what????? Young peeps??? death????

WA71
WA, 1382 posts
20 Nov 2013 12:40PM
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felixdcat said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Ban what????? Young peeps??? death????


Dont start with me felix

evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
20 Nov 2013 3:51PM
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harry potter said..
If you drive through the Melbourne CBD on a Friday or Saturday night you will be shocked at the number of kids ( say under 25 ) throwing up, passed out on the footpath or screaming and yelling abuse, walking on the road or fighting.


Exactly. It's binge binge binge. Alcohol does cause damage. People seem to think it must be OK if I can buy it over a bar and it tastes like a lolly. I'm not injecting it, so it's OK.

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One in eight deaths of Australians aged under 25 is now related to alcohol consumption, a report has revealed.
The Australian National Council on Drugs report (ANCD) also found 60 per cent of all police call outs, up to 90 per cent at night, are alcohol-related.


For some reason people read that and think "meh."
Try this:

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One in eight deaths of Australians aged under 25 is now related to drug use, a report has revealed.
The Australian National Council on Drugs report (ANCD) also found 60 per cent of all police call outs, up to 90 per cent at night, are drug-related.


What's the difference? There isn't any.

People say "meh" because they drink themselves.

oz surf
WA, 407 posts
20 Nov 2013 12:57PM
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WA71 said..

Ban it


Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly

worrier
WA, 726 posts
20 Nov 2013 1:36PM
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Some guru on abc radio today also said that recent studies show That 30% of youth debt is also directly attributed to alcohol as well, she was talking car crashes, hospital treatment etc
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WA71
WA, 1382 posts
20 Nov 2013 1:40PM
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oz surf said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly


Get a life, it was a joke idiot

oz surf
WA, 407 posts
20 Nov 2013 1:53PM
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WA71 said..

oz surf said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly


Get a life, it was a joke idiot


You should have a few beers and lighten up a little.

WA71
WA, 1382 posts
20 Nov 2013 1:59PM
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oz surf said..

WA71 said..

oz surf said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly


Get a life, it was a joke idiot


You should have a few beers and lighten up a little.


You,re village called, they want their idiot back

theDoctor
NSW, 5786 posts
20 Nov 2013 5:09PM
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you answered the call doggie

my guess is it was meant for you....

oz surf
WA, 407 posts
20 Nov 2013 2:18PM
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theDoctor said..



you answered the call doggie

my guess is it was meant for you....


WA71
WA, 1382 posts
20 Nov 2013 2:18PM
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theDoctor said..



you answered the call doggie

my guess is it was meant for you....


What eva, geez.... cant even take a joke, the guy is a fool.

felixdcat
WA, 3519 posts
20 Nov 2013 2:22PM
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WA71 said..

felixdcat said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Ban what????? Young peeps??? death????


Dont start with me felix


you started it

WA71
WA, 1382 posts
20 Nov 2013 2:27PM
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felixdcat said..

WA71 said..

felixdcat said..

WA71 said..

Ban it


Ban what????? Young peeps??? death????


Dont start with me felix


you started it


Started what?? Ban every thing ya farking wankers

NotWal
QLD, 7436 posts
20 Nov 2013 4:45PM
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oz surf said..


WA71 said..

Ban it



Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly



I wouldn't mind personally if it was banned. It's just alcohol. I don't really need it.

Of course there would be an outcry "You're infringing my rights" and "Prohibition doesn't work" and there is an element of truth to both, but you obviously have to be careless of the lives of others to get on that bandwagon so one must ask whether your rights should be respected. However you'd never get a majority of politicians behind banning because every selfish s**t has a vote. Maybe there could be an acceptable middle ground like limiting alcoholic content? or raising the drinking age?

I guess a mass education campaign like the occasional road toll mitigation campaign would be palatable and not totally ineffective.



WA71
WA, 1382 posts
20 Nov 2013 2:53PM
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NotWal said..

oz surf said..


WA71 said..

Ban it



Great idea,lets ruin for everyone who can and does drink responsibly



I wouldn't mind personally if it was banned. It's just alcohol. I don't really need it.

Of course there would be an outcry "You're infringing my rights" and "Prohibition doesn't work" and there is an element of truth to both, but you obviously have to be careless of the lives of others to get on that bandwagon so one must ask whether your rights should be respected. However you'd never get a majority of politicians behind banning because every selfish s**t has a vote. Maybe there could be an acceptable middle ground like limiting alcoholic content? or raising the drinking age?

I guess a mass education campaign like the occasional road toll mitigation campaign would be palatable and not totally ineffective.





Personally I think the drinking age should be raised to 21. To get your drivers licence at 17 then legal at 18 to drink really is stupid.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
20 Nov 2013 6:23PM
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Nearly 5:30pm - beer'o'clock!

briann8300
NSW, 144 posts
20 Nov 2013 6:38PM
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Not trying to make a sweeping statement but when we were young and being tear aways on too much beer the big No15 boot of some fat arse police sergeant was roofed into our backside if we stepped out of line...we leant to drink 'responsibly' watching our parents..occasional ****-faced sessions were tolerated as long as they were fairly spaced out....kids on high octane drinks get pissed too quickly...



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