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WindyBear
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11 May 2026 1:18pm
Jeroensurf said..
You friend got an extremely good low end set up. :)
I owned the V1 Super-k 92l so know that board quite well and demoed the Atlas 1130.
That combo almost takes of by itself and turn reasonably well but I found it also very slow.
The Enduro1300 has a similar take off speed, turns imo better and is faster.
When I put it in numbers I would say I can use KT 100-150cm2 smaller as some other brands while I need to pick AFS an 100-150 bigger for low end.
The top end is whole other game. I have ridden waves with the E1300 (wingfoil and Supfoil) over 37km p/h with full control and If you let go the numbers and just look at feel the 1300 is what you need: significant more low end and lower stall speed compared to your E1000.
Why not the 1100? I have the E900+1100+1300+1600 and think the 1300 covers 90% of the same range as the 1100 but with lower stall and take off speed. The 1100 work better when its more windy and the 1300 become a handfull, but ..you have already your 1000. If I would buy it again it would probably 1300-1000 instead of 1100.

UG stab:
I really like it for its glide and dragless feel once on foil, but if i get you right your issue is not with gliding but to get on foil, and in that regard that stab has no benefits imo.
Once on a foil its great. I just had an DW run with the wingfoil today (not yet into parawing) with my Pure HA1100 and replaced the HA stab for the UG41...whole different foil! The low end hasnt changed, but a lot better glide and pretty good turning and riding in the given conditions.
it also proves to me to not write off older foils.
I bought the E1100 last year and have the pure1100 now 3years and altough i really wanted to like the newer enduro, the older pure HA simply suits me better.
similar low end but more slippry through the water and better acceleration+speed+glide.
The E1100 turns better and has a slightly lower stall but with the pure its really easy to stay at speed that that isnt an issue. I guess the Ultra,s are more similar to it.

HA stab,s:
First get the 1300 and see how you like it with the HA40. For me that set up works as well altough I mostly use it with an HA43 to have just that extra bit to push against..but the differences are small between the 40 and 43.
This also a situation where I already have it, but If I would do it over again I would probably go for the biggest carve as i,m quite impressed by the U-carve140 with my Enduro900.










Thanks Jeroensurf and yes I agree my friend's kit was super stable and easy. But as you say the KT 1130 is quite slow. My friend compared it to jumping into a race car when he tried the enduro (with a wing) I was visiting him in Estonia and we had a fun session on Lake Peipsi (Raapina) with view of Russia on other side..



After some thought I think I will go with your recommendation of the e1300 and ha40. You are right the numbers look large on paper but it makes sense for AfS.

Thanks for the tips, hope to report back in a few weeks time!
Reply in Topic: New AFS Tails
WindyBear
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11 May 2026 1:10am
BWalnut said..
Tough spot.
For anyone new to AFS I would tell them that it isn't a low end brand. If you compare it to something like KT low end the AFS will lose every single time.
Here's a comparison of the smaller surf foils that touches on that:
www.wouzel.com/post/quick-comparison-afs-silk-code-x-kt-nomad
What you get from AFS is buttery smooth riding when at medium to high power. If you compare it back to back with the KT stuff you can sense the camber "noise" or "feedback" that isn't as smooth but gives insane low end.
For me, I've leaned on having super fast boards with my AFS stuff and good technique for takeoff in the bumps. I never found much difference in tail sizes for initial lift but can say the UG41 is a legendary tail vs the HA38 which I disliked all the way.
Jeroensurf might be able to help out with bigger size recommendations and I would love to hear how the new silk 1150 rides!


Thanks for your feedback and the point about the tails. Yes I'd agree the AfS foils certainly don't feel big for their size. Very interesting article you shared too. Even though I have a Cedrus mast and could switch to eg Nomad for a bit more low end I'm curious about the silks so may put in an order for the 1150. Also interested to hear some reports back on this size
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WindyBear
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10 May 2026 8:22pm
Hello and hoping to get some advice from the likes of BWalnut and Jeroensurf based on your enthusiasm and number of posts related to AFS. Anyone else please feel free to chip in too!

relatively new to AFS coming from North. I own one wing, the enduro 1000 with the silk ha38 stab. Last year on my North gear I was able to get into parawinging relatively easy with the sf1080 which was slow and stable and provided early lift . The enduro is a totally different beast, so lively and slippery underfoot but for parawinging I am struggling to get the early lift and speed I want.

was recently testing a friend's gear - KT atlas 1130 and his KT super K board 92l and it was so easy to get up on foil with the parawing. On my set up, enduro/ha38 and my Naish chimera 88l let me tell you I was struggling to get up on foil. Everything was just harder because you need make sustained speed with the enduro to get going.

so inevitably I look to gear choices because the difference was so remarkable . I could either change board, change front wing, change stab, or do all of those things.

but I want to keep things cheap and I would rather not change my board. It is a fantastic winging board and feels very compact but it isn't the most stable nor wide.

So in terms of 'cheap fixes' to ease my way into parawinging:

1: can anyone advise on possible different stabs that could generate more early lift and stability?

the AfS advice (chat through their website) recommended the UG stab range, but looking at the size of the UG41 it seems it would just make my task harder?! Other alternative I was thinking would be the silk ha40?

2. A bigger front wing: enduro 1300 seems a bit too bit for my liking but is it a big enough gap to go for the enduro 1100? What about the new silk v2's in the larger sizes, perhaps the silk v2 1150?

Thanks for any advice.
WindyBear
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5 Apr 2026 4:06pm
I own the sf830 and it makes for a great wingfoil wing for powered up winging (plus 18 knots). Have also managed to get it going with a DW board in about 12-14 knots with a bit of effort with a 4.5 inflatable wing.
used to have the sf1080 which was a light wind weapon, kind of regret selling it as it had an amazing low end and ability to pump out of anything.

never tried the entire DW series but I can tell you the dw1400 is not user friendly - perhaps in smaller sizes there is some magic there.

North is missing at the moment a wing in the 10-11 aspect ratio which combines surf turnability and glide. Other brands have this kind of wing (AfS enduro, F-one Eagle?) but north jumped to a much higher aspect ratio with 12-13 for their DW wing series.

maybe the sf series will stand the test of time but it seems in this sport that you need to keep innovating to stay relevant. If you believe the marketing, but also the non-payed reviews, the v2s of other wings (eg Sk8, silk) actually have made performance gains over the v1s.

A shame to see North lagging behind, at the moment it's definitely a brand that ambitious riders will probably grow out of eventually as they will want to experiment beyond the current offering.
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